I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once. Chasing these mythical “reasonable Republicans” has not worked, will not work, and will continue moving the Overton window further right.
So I’m sure that’s exactly what they’ll do. Could we please get another party that actually represents people???
We don’t really have two parties. We have oligarchs in control of both parties, and both parties work together to make sure no more parties can exist. They do this by making it seem like the right and the left are opposed to each other, but really both work together to keep you down.
We can’t fix this with parties. What we need to do is abolish parties. Prevent rich people from consolidating power. Give no small group of power-hungry bastards the ability to control everything. This means a drastic overhaul, and the people in power are not going to give it up willingly. They won’t fight fair, they won’t accept the results of an election unless it goes their way, and they won’t give you an opportunity to win.
I agree with the sentiment, but I do not agree that political parties should be abolished. Instead, there should be proportional representation, and more political parties, with more perspectives — the majority of solutions come from a democracy.
Parties are just a power transfer from voters to oligarchs. Coalition governments are just as easy to manipulate as two-party systems. Politicians shouldn’t be permitted a short-hand explanation of what they stand for. They should be required to make a full throated defense of their positions on the record. Parties provide political cover to do unpopular things while pretending to not be in a position to stop it.
You do have a point, but what would be the alternative? I have considered direct democracy, but the ultra-wealthy may still use that to their advantage.
You can still elect representatives, you just remove money from the equation. Candidates are given a public forum to share ideas, provide their credentials, and debate issues. Voters use a STAR voting system to vote for all the candidates they like. Special interest groups are free to speak and advertise all they want, but they cannot promote or attack a specific candidate.
It’s more or less how local primaries work, just on a larger scale.
I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once
They had power because the DNC was behind them, and due to the “victory fund” the DNC controlled the purse strings of a lot of state parties.
The voting members of the DNC listened, and elected a nonbiased DNC chair for the first time in decades.
So now the senior elected Dems don’t have anyone behind them. Seniority only mattered as tradition, they can all lose their leadership positions now if they lose the next round of leadership votes.
Could we please get another party that actually represents people???
We basically did already. The Chair has ultimate control of the party, and we got a drastic change in chair.
The Chair has ultimate control of the party, and we got a drastic change in chair.
Oh “drastic” change huh? First thing the new Dem chair (Martin) did was put up that right-leaning zionist bluedog centrist idiot Slotkin to rebutt trumps state of the union speech. Thats some impressive change. And its been Dems collaborating on republican votes since then, hasnt it. I see no change whatsoever with the new chair. If anything he fumbled over himself to assure the donors as quickly as he could that they were still calling the shots, and that progressivism hadnt been let into the building.
Another party won’t help. They have already gotten their fix in. Voting doesn’t matter in the US anymore.
Voting won’t save us now. Self defense and community defense are all we have left. The system has been stolen by the ultra rich, and they are gleefully enacting as much violence against us all as they want, because they “know” they don’t have to listen to us anymore. The only fix is to Luigi the violent class.
I really hope that the Dems leadership actually listens for once. Chasing these mythical “reasonable Republicans” has not worked, will not work, and will continue moving the Overton window further right.
So I’m sure that’s exactly what they’ll do. Could we please get another party that actually represents people???
Here’s the thing. No.
We don’t really have two parties. We have oligarchs in control of both parties, and both parties work together to make sure no more parties can exist. They do this by making it seem like the right and the left are opposed to each other, but really both work together to keep you down.
We can’t fix this with parties. What we need to do is abolish parties. Prevent rich people from consolidating power. Give no small group of power-hungry bastards the ability to control everything. This means a drastic overhaul, and the people in power are not going to give it up willingly. They won’t fight fair, they won’t accept the results of an election unless it goes their way, and they won’t give you an opportunity to win.
We need to draft a new constitution.
… that’s what shithead is trying to do…
That’s like not liking how your Civilization game is playing out and hitting restart, it’s lazy.
I disagree, we need to do it the hard way and have actual reform so we have stronger checks and balances.
The guys who wrote the original constitution would have suggested drafting a new one over a century ago. It was never supposed to be unchanging.
Which would require rewriting significant portions of the Constitution…
Which is different than starting over entirely
Barely. It’s not a long document to begin with.
You can entirely rewrite something while still looking at the first version. It doesn’t mean you start from scratch
I agree with the sentiment, but I do not agree that political parties should be abolished. Instead, there should be proportional representation, and more political parties, with more perspectives — the majority of solutions come from a democracy.
Parties are just a power transfer from voters to oligarchs. Coalition governments are just as easy to manipulate as two-party systems. Politicians shouldn’t be permitted a short-hand explanation of what they stand for. They should be required to make a full throated defense of their positions on the record. Parties provide political cover to do unpopular things while pretending to not be in a position to stop it.
You do have a point, but what would be the alternative? I have considered direct democracy, but the ultra-wealthy may still use that to their advantage.
You can still elect representatives, you just remove money from the equation. Candidates are given a public forum to share ideas, provide their credentials, and debate issues. Voters use a STAR voting system to vote for all the candidates they like. Special interest groups are free to speak and advertise all they want, but they cannot promote or attack a specific candidate.
It’s more or less how local primaries work, just on a larger scale.
How do you have proportional representation with a president? And from what it seems like your president is king.
You do need to change the system, but you can keep the President, reduce the President’s powers, and have a prime-minister to take care of many areas.
P.S.: I am from Portugal, he’s definitely not my President.
They had power because the DNC was behind them, and due to the “victory fund” the DNC controlled the purse strings of a lot of state parties.
The voting members of the DNC listened, and elected a nonbiased DNC chair for the first time in decades.
So now the senior elected Dems don’t have anyone behind them. Seniority only mattered as tradition, they can all lose their leadership positions now if they lose the next round of leadership votes.
We basically did already. The Chair has ultimate control of the party, and we got a drastic change in chair.
Oh “drastic” change huh? First thing the new Dem chair (Martin) did was put up that right-leaning zionist bluedog centrist idiot Slotkin to rebutt trumps state of the union speech. Thats some impressive change. And its been Dems collaborating on republican votes since then, hasnt it. I see no change whatsoever with the new chair. If anything he fumbled over himself to assure the donors as quickly as he could that they were still calling the shots, and that progressivism hadnt been let into the building.
Another party won’t help. They have already gotten their fix in. Voting doesn’t matter in the US anymore.
Voting won’t save us now. Self defense and community defense are all we have left. The system has been stolen by the ultra rich, and they are gleefully enacting as much violence against us all as they want, because they “know” they don’t have to listen to us anymore. The only fix is to Luigi the violent class.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs
https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.