https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Nazi_fährt_nach_Palästina
In April 1933, von Mildenstein and Tuchler, along with their wives, embarked on a trip to Palestine. Tuchler aimed to demonstrate the development of a “national home” for Jews, seeking to convince von Mildenstein that Jewish emigration could be a solution to the Nazi’s “Jewish question”. This visit was part of a broader strategy by the Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD) to facilitate Jewish emigration through negotiations with the Nazi regime, which was exploring various options for removing Jews from Germany.
Ein Nazi fährt nach Palästina
A Nazi goes to Palestine
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Zionism is a movement which attempts to convince Jewish people that they are unsafe in their community, and can only be truly safe in the zionist ethnostate.
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Antisemitism is a movement which attempts to make Jewish people unsafe in their community.
Zionism aligns in goals with antisemitism. They can both agree on making Jewish people feel unsafe enough to move to the zionist regime. In fact, in my country and at least a couple of others there’s already been concrete evidence revealed of links between Zionist organizations and racist White Nationalist events, like shared speakers and copied rhetoric/memes as propaganda.
Other replies have already alluded to this, but it’s important to state clearly.
This is not a phenomenon limited to Zionism, we see it with other separatist projects too, like the US Nation of Islam allowing the leader of the American Nazi Party to speak at some rallies, for example. [wiki summary],[famous image]
Yep, many identity movements exist in order to foster us vs them politics.
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One justification for European Jews moving to Israel that I’ve heard is that they’re victims of the Holocaust escaping Europe after the war. IIRC it’s also one of the stated reasons Germany and the EU have unquestioning support for Israel.
I don’t claim to know what’s best for Holocaust victims, but is moving back to their homes in Europe not an option even after the war? Aren’t they basically admitting that Europe is so antisimetic that even after Hitler was defeated it’s still not safe for Jews to live there, and/or straight up admitting that they genuinely don’t want Jews in Europe?
The whole foundation of Herzl political zionism is his belief that antisemitism is an inherent attribute of humans, really it’s that stupid. Theodore herzl was your average redditor parroting that greed is human nature but with antisemitism.
Here we see yet another negative result of this ideology that racism and bigotries are eternal human traits and not specific historically contextualized movements. If the enemy is eternal and can never be defeated, it really changes the calculus on what is to be done - it’s irrelevant to try and abolish racism now. It creates a sort of fatalistic acceptance of racism as a natural force of the world that can be co-existed with, utilized as a resource, etc. It makes it morally empty, just a thing that exists like water or air.
Lol so he basically believes that humans are genetically hardcoded to hate Jews? Like a baby born in rural nowhere will immediately recognize and start hating a Jew if one walked in?
Honestly he’s probably wildly antisemitic and is only projecting that to everyone else so he feels better about himself. “I’m not the problem, everybody hates Jews!”
Anti-Semitism, Herzl insisted, “is impossible to escape.” And anyone who says otherwise is a “soft-hearted” visionary, who believes that “the ultimate perfection of humanity” is “possible.” Herzl rejected as naïve the political Left view that humans can embrace equality. Humans are inherently corrupt and will forever remain so. Anyone “who would found this hope for improved conditions on the ultimate perfection of humanity, would indeed be painting a Utopia!”7
For both Herzl and Hitler, the Jews constituted one people, distinct from the people in whose company they dwelt. “It might… be objected that I am giving a handle to anti-Semitism when I say we are a people—one people; that I am hindering the assimilation of Jews,” Herzl wrote. But this wasn’t the case, he countered. Anti-Semitism, he argued, was inherent in the souls of men. As such, it didn’t matter whether he called Jews a nation or a religious community. Either way, anti-Semitism would continue to flourish; it was an inescapable part of being a non-Jew. Gentiles had no choice but to be anti-Semites. In modern parlance, Herzl might say that hatred of Jews is part of the gentiles’ genetic code, and that no amount of social engineering is ever going to change it. So, assimilation could hardly be frustrated by Herzl calling Jews a distinct people, since anti-Semitism, permanent and irremediable, ensured that Jews would never be truly assimilated.
From “Israel, a beachhead in the middle east” by Stephen Gowans.
The service of that myth is part of why German support for Israel is so over the top, yes. Actual treatment of Holocaust survivors in Israel could be really shitty, with high rates of poverty and mistreatment by Zionist settlers. A Hebrew slur against diaspora Jews of the time, “sabonim”, was slang for “coward” and stemmed from the use of Holocaust victims’ body fat to make soap.
However, following the money gets to the real heart of the issue. West Germany retained an enormous amount of money and property that Nazi Germany had stolen from Holocaust victims. Monetary support for Israel and encouraging immigration let the state dodge liability for reparations to individuals. Read more here: https://jacobin.com/2020/11/postwar-west-germany-support-israel-whitewashing
There is no need for Zionism in a world where Jewish people can live peacefully anywhere.
Global anti-Semitism is nothing but helpful to Zionism, so they encourage it. When you see them equating Zionism with Judaism during this genocide, don’t think for a second they don’t know it makes it more dangerous for Jews around the world.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
I always said Israel has big “go back to where you came from” energy.
To paraphrase a Jewish friend from high school: The true victory over antisemitism will be when Jews can live anywhere without fear, not when there’s a place only for us.
I’ve heard so many times from the zionists that being anti zionist was anti semetic so I had to read this like 4 times before my brain would let me comprehend it correctly.
also from the wiki link:
Von Mildenstein’s articles explored several questions about the future of Palestine and the viability of Zionism in what he described as the “turbulent Orient”.
Contrary to the derogatory stereotypes prevalent in Nazi propaganda, von Mildenstein depicted the Jewish settlers in Palestine as optimistic and industrious, a direct contradiction to the Nazi portrayal of Jews.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism:
Jewish scholar Ze’ev Jabotinsky, who developed Revisionist Zionism in the 20th century, wrote:
Our starting point is to take the typical Yid of today and to imagine his diametrical opposite … because the Yid is ugly, sickly, and lacks decorum, we shall endow the ideal image of the Hebrew with masculine beauty. The Yid is trodden upon and easily frightened and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to be proud and independent. The Yid is despised by all and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to charm all. The Yid has accepted submission and, therefore, the Hebrew ought to learn how to command. The Yid wants to conceal his identity from strangers and, therefore, the Hebrew should look the world straight in the eye and declare: “I am a Hebrew!”
From a previous comment of mine:
Zionism goes against the actual teachings of Judaism, it’s very revisionist. Jewish opposition to Israel is as old as Zionism itself. Hasidic Jewish people, while small in number, are still the largest Anti-zionist group in Israel. Jewish people have been at the forefront of Anti-zionist activism for a long time, including Jewish Voice for Peace. Palestinians too of course.
Zionism uses Judaism as a shield, deflecting criticism against it’s fascist actions as anti-semitic, which in-turn raises the amount of genuine anti-semitism experienced by Jewish people worldwide, due to that false conflation of Judaism and Zionism. That’s why it’s critical to detangle that false conflation.
Zionism comes from the same roots of other-izing Jewish people as seen in white supremacy, that’s exactly why it’s been supported by white supremacist since the beginning to present day. For white supremacists, Jewish people are inherently different and need to go back to ‘where they came from’ in the middle east. Christian Zionists, who far outnumber Jewish Zionists, want to trigger the end-times which will kill every ‘nonbeliever’ with the holy war.
Adi Callai, in his video Anti-Semitism, Weaponized, does a phenomenal analysis the history of antisemitism and how Zionism fits into that picture. He has another on the Gaza Ghetto Uprising and on Franz Fanon which are also just as relevant to the current situation in Palestine as well.
A Nazi farts in Palestine?
This is stupid
