In late March, version 78.0.1 of Setuptools — an important Python packaging tool — was released [...]

Discussing a breaking change in Python’s setuptools.

The really interesting part is in the discussion section… and it shows once more how incredibly well-designed the GNU Guix package manager is – which solves these problems very very well, for arbitrary languages and with a fast growing distribution of, by now, about 50,000 packages.

  • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
    3·
    7 hours ago

    Guix is awesome!

    Nonguix substitute server is down for the fifth straight day, forcing me to rebuild the entire Linux kernel when updating

    And you should Never use it!

    • HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.orgOP
      2·
      5 hours ago

      I don’t get that people constantly complain that the Guix project does not distributes or actively supports distribution of binary, propietary software. That is like complaining that Apple does not sells their Laptop with Linux, Microsoft does not sells Google’s Chromebooks, or that Amazon does not distribute free eBooks from project Gutenberg, ScienceHub or O’Reilly.

      And users can of course use the nonguix channel to get their non-free firmware or whatever, but they should not complain and demand that volunteers of other projects do more unpaid work. Instead, they should donate money or volunteer do do it themselves.

      But guess what? I think these complaints come to a good part from companies which want to sell their proprietary software. Valve and Steams show that a company can very well sell software for Linux, with mutual benefit, but not by freeloading on volunteer work.

      And one more thing, Guix allows to do exactly what Flatpaks etc. promise: Any company, as well as any lonely coder, team of scientists, or small FLOSS project, can build their own packages founded on a stable Guix base system, with libraries and everything, binary or from source, and distribute it from their own website in a company channel - just like any Emacs user can distribute his own, self-written Emacs extensions from a Web page. And thanks to the portability of the Guix package manager, this software can be installed on any Linux system, resting on a fully reproducible base.

      • Solumbran@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 hours ago

        I’ve seen good devs, helped by the team of guix themselves, fail for weeks and weeks at making it work as intended. That’s not a working software.