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    I know for a fact that it’s literally being limited by not allowing it to be read or seen

    How do you know this? If you can’t see it or read it, how do you know this?

    And you said it yourself, it’s being treated differently by preventing its diffusion and visibility.

    That isn’t censorship.

    Or tell me, why is a neutral word like cisgender being censored at all? But spare me the gaslighting.

    Again - it’s not being censored. You don’t get posts removed for saying it. You don’t get banned. The term is a controversial one, it’s not “neutral”. “Cisgender” has no need to even exist as a word. You don’t need a word to mean “not trans”, which is 99.99% of the population. The word “transgender” existing negates a need for “cisgender” to exist. “Cisgender” is really only ever used as an insult, which is why it’s treated as such. There’s no word for “not blind”, because not being blind is the default, the standard.

    First, don’t fall into the trap of confusing censorship with moderation.

    It’s funny you say that. Moderation that removes all differing opinions, and bans people who express them, is censorship. Limiting the reach of posts deemed “hateful”, while not removing them or banning the person posting them, is not censorship.

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      How do you know this? If you can’t see it or read it, how do you know this?

      Because it’s been reported by the news that I cited.

      That isn’t censorship.

      It’s the literal definition. Just because it’s thinly veiled as a moderation measure by a billionaire doesn’t mean that the core concept doesn’t apply. Like I said, don’t confuse it either way.

      You don’t get posts removed for saying it. You don’t get banned.

      And like I said, censorship is not only when your content gets removed or you get banned. You can have a similar effect with different mechanisms that effectively render content invisible, and I find it disingenuous of you not to consider that.

      “Cisgender” has no need to even exist as a word.
      You don’t need a word to mean “not trans”,

      Brother, we have created entire fictional languages for less, and have names for concepts you can’t even conceive of. Your argument is fragile. And your monolignualism is showing with those nearsighted takes.

      “Cisgender” is really only ever used as an insult,

      Cisgender has been thrown at Musk and his supporters because they treat it as an insult. Don’t even. lol

      Limiting the reach of posts deemed “hateful”, while not removing them or banning the person posting them, is not censorship.

      It’s most definitely a form of censorship, and I will die on this hill tonight.

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        From your own source:

        According to TechCrunch, users who write “cis” or “cisgender” on the X mobile app receive a full-screen message stating, “This post contains language that may be considered a slur by X and could be used in a harmful manner in violation of our rules.” Users can choose to continue publishing the post or delete it.

        Strange censorship that is, letting you say what you want.

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          I know, strange times we live in where “liberal” words are treated as if they were so dangerous that they need a consent screen. I don’t see that happening to hate speech and you’re here defending this.

          I know it doesn’t register in your mind the implications but I don’t expect you to.

          Btw, you seem to be defending a company that does this shit:
          https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/elon-musk-x-twitter-antisemitism-hashtags-trending-hate-rcna151945

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            If you say the n word on twitter you get the same message, as you do with other slurs.

            Btw, you seem to be defending a company that does this shit

            A company that relies on ads putting ads in their service? Oh no, the horror…

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              I love how you reply by pretending that everything I’ve said up to this point hasn’t been said in this thread.

              But I love more how you pretend that the contents of the ads being served to millions of users shouldn’t be reviewed for hate speech because the company is turning a profit and that makes it all ok.

              Tell me, how old are you and what is your highest level of education? You sound sus as hell with these myopic replies. You really sound like you haven’t experienced life.

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                More educated than you, I can almost guarantee :). Some people call me Doctor, though I think that should be reserved for science and medicine. What’s yours btw? Degree in gender studies or arts? The lefts obsession with calling everyone they disagree with “uneducated” is so pathetic.

                What are you talking about with regards to the contents of the ads? The “issue” that some people pretend to have is that they don’t think ads should be shown near content they deem hateful. It’s not the contents of the ads that people complain about. As for that complaint, only dimwit sees an ad and instantly thinks that the company the ad is for supports whatever views are shared in the same vicinity of it. In reality it was just a way for the left to try and guilt advertisers into leaving Twitter because they were upset that Elon ruined their safe space.

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                  Some people call me Doctor,

                  Oh really? I can almost always tell because it’s obvious in breath, depth and consideration shown in of the replies.

                  The “issue” that some people pretend to have is that they don’t think ads should be shown near content they deem hateful.

                  I sincerely can’t believe that someone who claims to be on par with a doctor doesn’t even entertain the possibility that the content of an ad could be problematic on a sociological level. And that’s on top of misconstruing the point I was making.

                  The “issue” that some people pretend to have is that they don’t think ads should be shown near content they deem hateful

                  You mean the advertisers of big corporations who care about their brand image don’t like that, right doctor?

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                    I sincerely can’t believe that someone who claims to be on par with a doctor doesn’t even entertain the possibility that the content of an ad could be problematic on a sociological level. And that’s on top of misconstruing the point I was making.

                    Do you think that that article you linked is saying that the content of the ads are “hateful” or “problematic”? That’s not what it’s talking about. It’s talking about showing normal ads near “hateful” content.

                    You mean the advertisers of big corporations who care about their brand image don’t like that, right doctor?

                    They only care when a bunch of idiots pretend that having an ad in the vicinity of something they don’t like means that the brand supports the thing they don’t like. They don’t actually care, they just pretended to so they could essentially blackmail companies into pulling advertising dollars from Twitter so they could try and harm twitter.

                    Did you not realise that? Did you really think that it was just a coincidence that all of a sudden it became some giant issue just as elon musk bought Twitter?

                    Oh really? I can almost always tell because it’s obvious in breath, depth and consideration shown in of the replies. … right doctor?

                    Love it - when you try to make fun of me when you think I’m “uneducated” and it falls flat on its face because I’m more educated than you, you then try to make fun of me for being more educated than you lol. Amazing.

                    You also didn’t answer my question, while I answered yours. That’s not very nice. What is your highest level of education and, if it was higher than high school, what was the area/qualification?