There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine, with some of them even blatantly saying they support Putin and some others trying to put into doubt evidence of Russian crimes (kidnapping children etc.)

I have been banned from world by @little_cow@lemmy.world for calling one of them out. Also both of my comments, the one in the screenshot and another one where I explain to another user that he is arguing with paid Russian troll have been removed.

  • Outwit1294@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    How ignorant and close minded are you to post this…

    You disagree with someone over an inherently subjective topic and then harrass them. So the mods ban you. Then you proceed to do the same to the mod by posting this.

    No one is allowed to have a different opinion than you?

  • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    70
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    3 days ago

    Accusing a user of being a paid troll account is against the rules in most instances, even if you somehow have strong evidence for it.

    It’s an unfalsifiable claim and is frequently used as a way to harass another user over a disagreement.

    YDI.

    • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      34
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      It is enough to look at this user commenting history to substantiate the claim.

      If you see a nazi, say “nazi”

      If you see a Russian troll, say “Russian troll”.

      • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        37
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        Like I said, its not about having evidence or not. It’s a disingenuous way of harassing someone for having an opinion you disagree with.

        If the opinion is a rule-breaking one, then report it. If it isn’t, find a more constructive way to deal with your disagreement.

        • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          20
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          Too many people (myself included) learned to focus on the person, instead of the idea.

          That leads to sophist arguments (“you’re a troll”), rather than searching for the truth that lies somewhere between different viewpoints.

          It’s not easy to keep in mind and to find ways to stay on the subject.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Being a paid troll is one thing. If I see someone spreading pro fascist propaganda, I wouldn’t call them paid, but I would absolutely call them out on promoting fascist propaganda

      • Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 days ago

        The issue is, you just broke rules too.

        Next time.

        Just report him or say something more civil. But honestly if you see a rule breaker just report him.

        It’s like kinda like real life you don’t deal with criminals the justical system in this case mods and admins do.

      • Avatar of Vengeance@lemmy.mlBanned
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 days ago

        That’s interesting, because when I say “Nazi”, you say “Russian troll”. Maybe you have your favorite Nazis after all?

  • npdean@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    Omg he got banned due to my report lol

    For anyone who bothers to read this, @FelixCress@lemmy.world harrassed me for difference in opinion about geopolitical issues. He then proceeded to harass me by following me around and downvoting all my comments and replied to my comments which didn’t involve him. He also used multiple accounts/community (which he admitted to) which then did the same.

  • 🌱 🐄🌱 @lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    I temporarily banned you for violating the rules of the community more then once

    Please use this time to reflect, read, and pray for you have clearly lost your way

    News communities are very important to the discussion of events which impact many people lives

    When you make these sort of comments the quality of the post is degraded

    In addition the rules are clear for all to read

    I will pray for the malice which poisons your heart against the fellow man to leave your body and mind

    • npdean@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Since you are here mod, make sure to check how he brigades others (or maybe his alt accounts) to downvote and comment on a single target. He has admitted that he posts my content to other communities for such behaviour (the comment has since been deleted by mods). I have some names but I don’t want to take names without proof.

  • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    YDI

    Clear violation of the rules regardless of whether they are a paid troll or not. It doesnt matter.

    Use the report button next time.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    The community rules:

    • Rule 5 - Keep it Civil - It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative).

    You deserved it, you broke the community rules by accusing someone of being a bad faith actor, which isn’t nice.

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      3 days ago

      not calling out bad faith actors is why reddit went to shit in 2015, and it’s already happening here thanks to fools like you covering for obvious forum sliding behavior

    • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      23
      ·
      3 days ago

      accusing someone

      It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

      which isn’t nice

      🤦

      • npdean@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        What facts do you have to prove what you said? Do you have my bank transactions? Do you have any communication between me and the Russian government?

      • Glytch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        17
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

        This statement is simply false.

        Accusations can be backed up by facts. They’re still accusations. Facts can make accusations more convincing, but they don’t stop being accusations when facts are provided.

      • idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 days ago

        What facts it’s based on?

        Sir, this is lemmy, we already have a lot of users who sounds like paid trolls, this platform is too small to be targeted by some psyop, I would guess they are simply stupid/delusional/tankie than to be a paid russian agent.

      • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.

        Your comment was against the rules of the community. Use the report button, bring it to fediverselore, whatever, but that doesnt change the very simple fact here - you broke the rules.

        Thats the only context that matters relative to your ban.

        Edit: wad/was. I wasn’t talking about Doom, I promise.

      • frongt@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 days ago

        Appearing to be is not the same as being. If you have evidence of being, share with the class.

  • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    3 days ago

    The fact you belive that one must be a troll to support russia is a great evidence everyone is better if you keep away from political discussion. You ate too much propaganda, maybe detox from capitalist press and learn a bit about history?

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      3 days ago

      If you’re supporting Russia’s invasion of a sovereign country and all the war crimes that go along with it you’re as bad as someone who’s supporting Israel’s genocide of the Palestine people.

          • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            10
            ·
            3 days ago

            The part where you side with imperialism in the case of ukraine and then against it in the case of palestine.

            • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              14
              ·
              3 days ago

              I’m siding with small countries being illegally invaded by larger counties as the large country is committing war crimes against the smaller one.

              I’m being very consistent.

            • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              12
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              3 days ago

              side with imperialism

              Ohh i didn’t know the definition of imperialism is getting invaded by another country.

              Ohh remember when the time India become imperialist when British Empire colonized them? I sure do!

              • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                12
                ·
                edit-2
                3 days ago

                If you are able to read, id suggest lenins book in the subject

                Ps: you guys reach new levels of dumb over the course of hours

                • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  7
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  Uh huh, i don’t care about lentils book or your “huhu i’m smart yur dum” comment, i just wanna know what do you mean by being on the imperialist side, so do explain to us dum dum why siding with ukraine is imperialism since you’re so smart.

    • RedSeries (She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      3 days ago

      sees lemmy.ml

      I feel like I could sleepwalk into your response. Practically a meme.

      Anyway, OP deserves it, but wow you leaned in hard on “falling for western propaganda” or whatever. OP deserves it for claiming someone is a troll or bot or something. How is your comment that different from theirs?

  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    3 days ago

    There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine

    Attacking Ukraine with what, opinions on social media? People who disagree with you aren’t being paid by US adversaries. Russiagate was a hoax.

  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    3 days ago

    He has the right to spread Russian propaganda.

    You don’t have a right to call him out for it.

    That’s just how modern censorship works.

    Block the instance and move on. This community has extensively documented this behavior on some communities on lemmy.world.

    DNC komissars don’t appreciate you

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    PTB. I’m not a huge fan of lib russophobia and I know it’s against the rules to be “uncivil”… But civilization is a racist myth and tone policing supports hegemony. Let the people make their jokes.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      3 days ago

      tone policing supports hegemony.

      Tone policing is the modern censorship and it is more effective since normies do it to each other as one up.

      Useful idiots enforcing regime orthodoxy while feeling morally superior doing it. Sometime it even feels as if they ate sticking to the man too 🤡