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    5 days ago

    Some antisemitic guy referred to Jews as Zionists? Wow that is crazy.

    Why are you protecting Zionists on your community who advocate for genocide? He is admitting it himself.

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      “Zio” is a term coined by David Duke long before this current conflict, and instead of saying ‘Oh, my bad, I won’t use Zio,’ you refer to him as just some antisemitic guy, he’s the leader of the KKK.

      Why are you defending David Duke and calling him just some guy? And more importantly, will you admit that you will no longer use Zio now that you know the origins of the word?

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          Here

          The latest chapter in the Chicago Dyke March controversy unfolded late last week after the group walked back its use of the term “Zio,” a pejorative brought into prominence by former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke and often deployed by white supremacists.

          You need to stop using it

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            You really think it took the KKK to abbreviate the word Zionist which has existed for centuries?

            It took me 2 months after learning the term. And not from “David Duke”.

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              Will you stop using it now that you know the origins of the word? You can use zionist, whatever, but don’t use zio

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                Forward is a Zionist propaganda website. They are not a source. These sites write things like “the Palestinians convinced Hitler to throw Jews into the ovens.”

                The term “ZioNazi” was already used in the 90s. Would you prefer that one?

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                  I don’t want a user in my community who is adamant about using the exact same term that David Duke uses and wishes to argue about its usage. And the whole handwaving David Duke and the KKK is pretty alarming too. You can use zionist or zionazi or whatever, but your insistence on using specifically “zio,” even after showing evidence of its terminology, is not a good look.

                  If we can’t use “degenerate,” we certainly cannot allow people who use “zio”

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      Some antisemitic guy referred to Jews as Zionists? Wow that is crazy.

      I think the point was that it was a KKK Nazi who coined “Zio” and not many people know the term apart from Nazis. News to me but I don’t mind whatever you are because you have been civil enough so far.

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      I advocate for genocide? This is the go-to for ProPals who refuse intellectual discussion the same way as the Jews who accuse any criticism of Israel as “anti-Semitism”.

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          Yes. In the current boundaries and to get out of the WB and eventually out of Gaza (like they did before Oct 7).

          Do you resent the current small Jewish ethno-state amongst the many larger Muslim ethno-states in the Middle East?

          One which is 20% Arab in fact and gives Arabs full citizenship. I understand Jews in Israel not wanting to be outnumbered in a single state solution because Hamas want Jews eliminated from the Levant.

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              Which country (other than Israel) in the Middle East is not a Muslim Ethno-state?

              Do you resent the current small Jewish ethno-state amongst the many larger Muslim ethno-states in the Middle East?

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                None of them.

                Every single Middle Eastern country grants the right to national self-determination to Muslim and non-Muslim citizens.

                Except Israel who grants it exclusively to Jews.

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                  They are majority Muslim countries which have Sharia law. That makes them an ethno-state.

                  Seems you cited a criterion none of those countries have been called on to fulfill. Have they put it in writing even or did you invent it? Which of those countries actually granted it to a non-Muslim citizenry? In fact which country even allowed a Shia-Sunni split?

                  There may have been a 2 state solution in Israel if Arabs were not obsessed with wiping out Jews. Now it won’t happen for generations because of Oct 7.