The streaming star on how to reject political violence while staying honest about Kirk’s rhetoric.

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    Not at all. He professses to be an expert on me issues and the conflict in Israel. He’s been covering it for years. You’d better damn well know at least the fundamentals of the GODDAMN region you’re covering holy shit.

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      again you failed to demonstrate how it is at all relevant. literally the same relevance as my analogy.

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        No, he did. If I claim to be a computer programmer with 20 years of experience, but dont know the basics of any computer language, that would be an important detail in discrediting me and my “expertise” on the topic. Right? So if someone is saying they are an expert on Israel and Gaza(ie, “listen to me!”) then pointing out that they dont know basic things about the topics is very important. Because the last thing the world needs, is more listening to fucking grifters that only feed into collective outrage.

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          Even real experts don’t know every details about their field. The argument that just because he didn’t know about the wall was makes him fake and uneducated about the topic is ridiculous and dumb

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            They may not know every detail off the top of their heads, but they will know the basics of their chosen fields. Like every mathematician knows their times tables, right? Whats ridiculous and dumb, is being so balls deep in the culture wars that you refuse to see any negatives of the talking heads you subscribe to, even when they are obvious as fuck.

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              but the analogous situation is not a mathematician knowing about times tables. it’s a mathematician knowing about fucking numerology.

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              Do you think mathematicians know every single theory and influence of mathematic in every civilizations etc?

              The wall could have not existed and zionists would have still occupied palestine because zionism is a supermasist ideology over stupid ancestral claims

              I do not oppose critisism of Hassan, i oppose stupid accusations like him being a scammer who only talk about palestine to makes money or dismissing any influence he has. He at least definitly have more impact than you complaning here

              I never saw Hassan participating in a culture war, i don’t know what you talk about

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          your analogy is not correct. this is like claiming to be a computer programmer with 20 years of experience but not knowing how the computers in star trek work. it’s just bullshit that has no bearing on your opinions on programming.

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              no? does no one understands analogies here? the genocide is computer programming in this analogy. the wall is the computers in star trek. it means fuck all and has no bearing on actual computer sciences.

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                I do, I might be you who doesnt. I gave a real world analogy of someone pretending to be a master in a craft, and you pulled star trek out your arse for some reason while saying the same thing, but equating observations with Gaza to watching a tv show.

                The man claims to be an expert, but doesnt know the basics of the conflict or the players. What about that are you not getting?

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                  equating observations with Gaza to watching a tv show

                  nope. dude it’s not my fault that you cannot read. I spelled it out for you and you still misunderstand. which means one of two things, you’re a troll who’s deliberately doing it, or just plain fucking dumb. either way you can just ask someone smarter what it means because I tried to tell you like you were five and it didn’t work.

                  the wall isn’t and has never been part of the basics of the conflict or the players.

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        Really? One of the keystone elements in the biggest geopolitical conflicts in the middle east? One of the biggest claims the zionists use as justification for right to return? The most sacred site in the Jewish faith?

        Really?

        Wikipedia is free, you know?

        The Western Wall

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          i don’t remember saying i don’t know what the fucking wall is. i said how is it fucking relevant to forming a fucking opinion on the fucking genocide.

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            I don’t know man… Why does having any historical context help to discuss the biggest conflict in middle east? Are you under the impression the genocide started on Oct 7?

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              what are you even talking about? “the meaning of the western wall” has no bearing on the reality of the genocide, not the morality of it. this is not a religious project. it’s a settler colonial project. you don’t even need to know what religion they are part of, let alone what some fucking magic wall is supposed to “mean”. here’s what it means: nothing. none of this shit is for or because of the wall.

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                You can downplay it all you want, which is weird, but it is a central element to the Jewish claim for the right to return. You know, the reason the Zionists are there in the first place. But hey, listen, if you like superficial slop rage farming content you do you. Hey, btw did you know genocide bad? Kony 2012!

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                  the reason Zionists are there is not because of that. again, this is not a religious project, it’s a settler colonial one. all of that is bullshit justifications.

                  by the way even if it weren’t it still wouldn’t matter one fucking bit for one to form an opinion on the genocide, or apartheid state, or settler colonialism because the so-called reasoning doesn’t fucking matter. i don’t understand why you’re talking as if in certain nuanced situations maybe genocide would be justified. maybe apartheid would be ok. if only you knew the religious reasons maybe you’d understand that ethnic cleansing is not bad, actually…

                  the way you talk about this makes me pretty sure you’re a crypto zionist trying to downplay criticisms of Israel. well kindly fuck off with all that.

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                    Why did the zionists pick that spot?

                    I see the ad hominem attacks and labeling already coming out. No, I’m not a crypto zionist. I just know how to have a conversation that’s more in depth than whatever slop you’re used to haha.