• arankays@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    Does anyone have proof that this is less/more effective than kernel level anti cheat?

    Please provide factual evidence, not hearsay. That’s % cheaters detected vs % cheaters not detected scaled by the overall player base.

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      11 hours ago

      Please provide factual evidence, not hearsay. That’s % cheaters detected vs % cheaters not detected scaled by the overall player base.

      Yeah good luck providing such evidence for any kind of game or anti-cheat.

      Personally, I hate kernel level ac and it made me actually stop playing few games and avoid similar ones. Had enough of mere games screwing up with my PC through EAC and EAC ignoring my reports for years.

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      21 hours ago

      Nobody can have proof of that, because no such proof can ever exist. How would you ever have a proven correct number of cheaters not detected?

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        20 hours ago

        So what’s the point of an anti cheat then if you don’t know how many people are cheating, how many people are not, and you don’t have confidence that the anti cheat is 99% effective at the very least?

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          17 hours ago

          It can be tested in closed systems but it’s not something you can easily define the success rate of because the cheats are constantly evolving and game updates close or introduce vulnerabilities.

          There is still value of having an anti-cheat even if it does not have a high chance of catching cheaters, so long as it keeps false positives to a minimum.

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            17 hours ago

            “there is still value of having an anti cheat even though it does not have a high chance of catch cheaters”

            That doesn’t make any sense. LOL. What’s the value then of the anti cheat?

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              15 hours ago

              You can die in a car accident, even if you wear a seat belt.

              LOL what’s the value of a seatbelt? You’re either very dull or a troll. Maybe both.

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                15 hours ago

                That’s a car not a video game. You don’t need to insult me you dimwit. Apples and oranges.

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                  14 hours ago

                  You failed to understand the parallel between my example and the topic at hand, so I’m proud to announce that you’ve passed the idiot test with flying colors!

                  Pro tip: apples and oranges can be compared and contrasted. They have a large variety of similarities and differences.

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                    14 hours ago

                    Why do you sound like a 12th grader who just discovered Reddit? “You’ve passed the idiot test!” 🤓🤓🤓

                    Cringiest comment I’ve ever seen in my life. Goodbye cunt.

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        20 hours ago

        Please provide proof that games with kernel level anti cheat have the same rate of cheating as games without it.

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          20 hours ago

          A game blocks cheats or it doesn’t. Only cheat providers and gaming companies will have those numbers and I’m not sure they are going to release them.

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            19 hours ago

            Thanks for letting me know. So we don’t have any proof at all that these anti cheats are effective? I’m not even saying which anti cheat. Just saying in general.

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                18 hours ago

                What do you mean definition of effective lmfao. An anti cheat should stop cheaters. If I go on counter strike and I find a cheater then that anti cheat is ineffective. If I go on valorant and don’t find a cheater that is effective. It’s not that complicated.

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                    17 hours ago

                    Can you please provide evidence that valorant has more or less cheaters than CS2, scaled by player base. Hearsay and personal experience aren’t facts. I personally have not encountered more than 1 cheater in valorant whereas with other games without kernel level anti cheat, every other lobby has one.