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Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Madlad posted this on the r/libertarian subreddit and they banned him

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Madlad posted this on the r/libertarian subreddit and they banned him

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Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/1d6auj0/how_it_started_vs_how_its_going/

  • iopq@lemmy.world
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    What’s your point? Libertarians are all about taking personal responsibility

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      Ron Paul can’t even take responsibility for racist newsletters.

      Edit: will you respond with “he didn’t have time to edit them” (undermining the personal responsibility point), or “Ron Paul isn’t libertarian” (No True Libertarian). I await with baited breath.

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        I used to like him as an outsider candidate, but I can no longer endorse his views, especially as he tacitly defends Russian authoritarian state by demanding the US go back on its security guarantees.

        There’s a split between Kremlintarians and liberal democracy supporting libertarians. The racist newsletters were the canary in the coal mine, Ron Paul is actually fairly right wing and gets a lot of support from right wing people. I would no longer support him or his son for President.

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      Do you have a source on that? My experience with libertarians is “I do what I want, and if I cause problems for you, fuck you” not “I’m personally responsible for my actions and the effects they have on my surroundings”.

      Also, you blindly missing the point, and then dodging it instead of admitting you missed the crux of the issue was just chef’s kiss perfect.

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        Source: lots of people are different and you should not generalize some libertarians to every libertarian.

        Libertarians believe in NOT causing problems for others. It’s the basis of lobertanism, the non-aggression principle

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

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          So no source?

          • iopq@lemmy.world
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            I just linked you

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              To a wikipedia page about the non-aggression principle…

              Not a source that documents personal responsibility as a core value of libertarianism.

              So no source?

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                It’s got sources in the article.

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                  Should be easy enough to copy/paste that link then.

                  • iopq@lemmy.world
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                    It sure is

                    https://books.google.com/books?id=yxNgXs3TkJYC

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virtue_of_Selfishness

                    https://cdn.mises.org/Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, A_4.pdf

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzHEhMQaKbg&t=1209s

                    https://archive.org/details/TheMachineryOfFreedom/page/n65/mode/2up

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

                    https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/222/0057_Bk.pdf

                    http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/the-morality-of-libertarianism/

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