100% agree with both points. The disconnect is the timeline each considers. As a father I am deeply empathic for the children that are not able to advocate for themselves and the immunocompromised that are basically left to be assaulted by other’s ignorance.
But longer term, think multigenerational, the higher death rates for the anti-vax crowd may be the correction that leads to better overall outcomes for humanity.
This is why I love Lemmy. Thank you for being an amazing internet citizen.
Not disputing any of this, but an article associated with Barry Weiss? Have any other legitimate sources that corroborate any of the opinion points? She doesn’t have the best rep. And that article made broad generalizations and associations.
For example, the headline implies that this was a position Biden held. However, Trump said he would do the same thing Trump Says He Would Block US Steel Acquisition by Nippon Steel
This Axios article at least makes the point that while all of the above may happen, it’s so complicated that the proof will be in whether jobs disappear or not.
The real headline is neither major political party cares about the working class and is pandering to the whims of those who hold power.
I let you have this win, seems like you really need it! XOXO
My liege… I suggest you devote a significant portion of this years penguin budget to reading comprehension. Be well!
It’s there for you to read. The article never said jury nullification needs 12 jurors to vote not guilty.
Nullification is when one or more jurors disregard the law or facts or both and vote for whatever outcome they want. That can end in an acquittal, a hung jury, or even a guilty.
For example, in a criminal case of involving an individual named Carlos Poree in NOLA, the trial defense was insanity. The jury voted guilty. When individually polled the jury admitted they thought he was insane at the time of the offense but would get out early if they voted that way. That case was sent back for the jury to either vote in favor of insanity or acquit.
Here is the NYT Link to get you started if you want to learn more.
The original post said nullification wouldn’t happen bc they would never get all the jurors to vote that way. Thats for acquittal by nullification. For a hung jury they don’t need all the jurors. Sure the DA could try again. This happened with Curtis Flowers in Mississippi
That’s literally the definition of jury nullification which is what this discussion is about.
Congrats on your reign btw. Sounds like a “Happy Feat”
This is New York State specific. When the verdict is announced the jury foreperson announces it in open court after it is shown to the presiding judge. At that point the defense Alan request to poll the individual jurors. Occasionally, there is a discrepancy.
Jury deliberations are secret prior to the verdict being announced. Once announced jurors are free to say whatever they want but cannot be compelled.
If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal. If that happens, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in an acquittal. If a mistrial happens, meaning the jury cannot reach a verdict, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in a mistrial.
Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.
If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal.
Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.
If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal. If that happens, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in an acquittal. If a mistrial happens, meaning the jury cannot reach a verdict, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in a mistrial.
Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.
Did you read the article? From the article:
Jury nullification is the term for when a jury declines to convict a defendant despite overwhelming evidence of guilt. This can be a form of civil disobedience, a political statement against a specific law, or a show of empathy and support to the defendant.>
from NY Courts - Criminal Trial
In a jury trial, after all the testimony has been heard and all the evidence has been presented, the Jury is given instructions on the law by the Judge. The jury then goes to the jury room to deliberate, which means to look at and review all the evidence and testimony. The jury tries to make a decision on whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, which is called reaching a verdict. The verdict must be unanimous, meaning every juror must agree on the verdict. If they can’t all agree, this is called a hung jury, and the Judge will have to declare a mistrial. A mistrial does not mean that the case is over. After a mistrial, the prosecutor can choose to try the case again.>
That means as long as one juror refuses to give in to pressure to convict they can nullify. They don’t need 12. In other words jury nullification <> being found not guilty
I wonder how many federal agents they will use for his perp walk?
My original comment implied that the world sent a plague in response to Trump. Having trouble understanding the relevance of your comment. But nice try at a point.
I know reading is hard. You need to group letters to form words and words to form sentences. Take breaks when confused. Use ice or aspirin for any headaches.
Per the CDC
“January 20, 2020
CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state and on the same day activates its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to respond to the emerging outbreak.“
I guess the first time around the world was just as surprised that there were enough morons to elect him. This time the world was more on the ball.
How does the thoughts and prayers contingent not recognize that every time Trump takes office the world sends a plague? Isn’t that in their handbook as being significant?
Please don’t sleep on JD Vance. While Trump is selling out the constitution, he is the tip of the want-to-be authoritarian spear: Is There Something More Radical than MAGA? JD Vance Is Dreaming It.