Well, only 1 or 2 of those were in a time frame where I’d consider FSD superior to AP, it’s a more recent development where that’s likely the case.
But to your point, at some point I expect Tesla to use the FSD software for AP for the exact reasons you mentioned. My guess is they’d just do something like disable making left/right turns , so you wouldn’t be able to use it outside of straight stretches like AP today.
Shit, I should delete my comment before they get any ideas.
I always just assumed it was their way to ensure the vehicle was really autonomous. If you have someone remotely driving it, you could argue it isn’t actually an AV. Your latency idea makes a lot of sense as well though. Imagine taking over and causing an accident due to latency? This way even if the operator gives a bad suggestion, it was the car that ultimately did it.
Just a further thought…
It’d be interesting if the tax could automatically increase if these goals that were met, were no longer met.
So to go from 3% to 2% you need to generate an extra billion revenue, but if you lose that revenue it then climbs back to 3%.
It would really complicate the system… you’d essentially need to always be set up to charge income tax, but then have a variable rate that updates the systems maybe quarterly or yearly. But you couldn’t ditch the system entirely since you’d need companies to have a method to suddenly start charging it again if it had to go from 0% to 0.5%
They don’t even do that, according to Waymo’s claims.
They can suggest what the car should do, but they aren’t actually doing it. The car is in complete control.
Its a nuanced difference, but it is a difference. A Waymo employee never takes control of or operates the vehicle.
For what it’s worth, it really isn’t clear if this is FSD or AP based on the constant mention of self driving even when it’s older collisions when it would definitely been AP, and is even listed as AP if you click on the links to the crash.
So these may all be AP, or one or two might be FSD, it’s unclear.
Every Tesla has AP as well, so the likelihood of that being the case is higher.
It sounds like it only goes to 0 if certain goals are met, otherwise it’ll go down to, and then stay at 3%.
So if they can’t figure something out like those other states, it won’t go to 0.
Still a bad idea, but it’s not a lets make it 0% right away then FAFO
The headline doesn’t tell the full story.
They then re-filmed it with her not saying the word vote 🤦
I actually feel like the kind of damage Musk presents could actually be healed by therapy, but he would really have to want that change and he doesn’t, or can’t see it. I’m not sure he ever will either.
A lot of scummy people you get the sense that there’s literally no hope for them (which also probably isn’t true, everyone has hope, but as little as possible hope)
I feel like it’d be pretty hard to get a job in a freaking airport terminal as an illegal immigrant as well… not the brightest racist person there.
At the swimming pool with a speedo on and a waterproof holster for a small hand gun.
Cory makes a secret hand signal…
Senator: I have ONE question for you Cory - makes long question so he can take a piss
or
Senator: I have TWO questions for you Cory - now he can go take a shit
You don’t even need this to have happened given what he’s done with DOGE and his buying an election. People would have still hated him, just not as many.
At what point can the Canadian government just start seizing assets of US companies in retaliation of the tarrifs?
Oh this is going to cause the auto factory in Ontario to be shut down and thousands of jobs lost?
That’s a Canadian owned factory now. Sorry GM. We’ll make cars for ourselves.
Ya know … a lot of things get called unprecedented, but I gotta say, I highly doubt a journalist has ever been included on a classified military strike chat anywhere in the modern world, possibly the whole world, ever.
So ya this is definitely unprecedented.
If someone absolutely had to be fired over this, it’s her supervisor for either not telling her to let a higher up know, or being a god dam supervisor and not reporting it up the chain themselves. WTF
Historically speaking, there was a lot of dark money and influence being used to try and bankrupt Tesla.
I have to say that DOGE has been been excellent at it’s job though and those sources don’t really need to spend as much money to do so now.
He probably threw a roll of toilet paper at the TV and thinks he helped them.
Oops meant to reply to this earlier but was busy.
I was thinking more that Grok was aware of its prompt but was somehow able to then self reference it to accuse Musk of trying to silence itself.
If the prompt said you won’t speak poorly of Musk, but the AI doesn’t think telling the truth in a specific way is speaking poorly, it might say Musk doesn’t want me to say bad things about him. It knows the prompt and it made an answer.
So it’s kinda leaking the prompt that way
I think it does matter, while both are supposed to follow at safe distances, the FSD stack is doing it in a completely different way. They haven’t really been making any major updates to AP for many years now, all focus has been on FSD. I think the only real changes it’s had for quite awhile have been around making sure people are paying attention better.
AP is looking at the world frame by frame, each individual camera on it’s own, while FSD is taking the input of all cameras, turning into 3d vector space, and then driving based off that. Doing that on city streets and highways is only a pretty recent development. Updates for doing it this way on highway and streets only went out to all cars with FSD in the past few months. For a long time it was on city streets only.
I think that’s why it’s important to make a real distinction between AP and FSD today (and specifically which FSD versions)
They’re wholly different systems, one that gets older every day, and one that keeps getting better every few months. Making an article like this that groups them together over the span of years muddies the water on what / if any progress has been made.