Yeah, that’s because grapefruits are pomelo and orange hybrids. And it’s the only American native citrus. The parent species were brought to the Americas from Asia. They escaped from plantations, crossbread in the wild (in Barbados) and that’s how grapefruits were born.
Also, pomelos are one of the few comercial citruses that are not hybrids, it’s a botanic species (unlike oranges, lemons, limes and tangerines)
Omg I need that spoon, it’s perfect!
Wtf? I’ve got everything crowded up at the highest level of tasty, including the lemon - nom nom!
You don’t have to eat it, you know. And you won’t have any medication problem. It’s a complete win for you.
Do you have to meet the meteorologist and check his data and model to believe their weather forecast? Do you have to meet every single politician, scientist, news reporter, just everyone, to believe any news at all?
2 comments earlier: “Releasing it now is just shameful.” - sounds pretty much like the commenter would not be outraged if it was not released at all.
I think the rational approach would be to express outrage for every single year when it was NOT released and to celebrate that this year, finally it is out. The victims deserve the public acknowledgement of what really happened. This is a positive thing and it’s worth it even after a 100 years.
The people who released it now are not the same people who decided not to release it 100 yrs ago. DOJ is not the same entity all the time, it changes with the people who work there. The people who work there now could have decided against releasing it, just like their predecessors. They didn’t. The fact it was not released back then is frustrating, but you cannot hold today’s DOJ accountable for that.
Couldn’t get to the site and I’m curious. What is the incidence of compulsory sex disorder and erectile dysfuntion caused by porn? Are there any known predispositions?
Read the title thinking - a few drones fall and suddenly there’s nothing on TV.
Perhaps you could meet the pleople who work in the library and try to organize something with them? Community gatherings need a push to start happening and people willing to organize them. If you miss these oportunities, create them, it’s not that hard and it’s very rewarding.
I think basically we agree with each other. Using and exploiting children (or adults) is bad, depictions of sex can be done well and can be good.
The reason I feel differently about this particular movie is perhaps because I saw it without knowing anything about the shooting and it felt like a very good take on the story (including the sex scene - the fact they had sex was crucial even in the original play, no matter how it was portrayed at the time). The way Zeffirelli behaved makes me sick though.
Also I don’t view the story as being about a toxic codependent relationship, more like being about innocent horny teens betrayed by the power games and complete incompetence of the adults around them. They are really just teenagers trying to navigate their own new needs and feelings, just like it usually is at that age.
My comment about sex positivity was not meant to say all depictions of sex are or should be positive. I wanted to say sex positivity is needed for the society to view sex depictions as something normal, not necessarilly automatically pornographic or straight out taboo.
As for the overall direction the conversation went, well, the post was about the death of an actress and most comments were about her teenage boobs - that’s the internet for you.
I appreciate your view of Pretty Baby and Lolita - these are films that are quite hard for me to watch and I agree they’re great examples of movies with meaningful sex scenes. I also think many people would call them child porn without thinking twice about it (and they would be very wrong).
I don’t think you understood what I was trying to say. I said I think child actors should not be exploited for artistic purposes. Ever. I think we both agree with that, right?
I don’t find anything wrong about depicting a sex scene with a minor as a character if it makes sense artistically though (which is the case of R&J). There are ways to film it without including unconsenting or minor actors (or both).
I think of art as a form of complex communication and I think it’s important to communicate even about hard, painful and taboo topics.
I also think porn is not a bad thing, so sex positivity is not connected to not being pornographic in my mind.
The sentense that acknowledges it is the one about Zeffirelli.
I agree artist should not be allowed to force actors into things they don’t consent to. I also think scenes like the one in R&J should be allowed in movies.
That was me. I think this discourse is important. Is every sex depiction necessarily porn? I don’t think so. I think sex can be depicted in art and media for other than pornographic purposes and it’s ok to do so. But it shouldn’t be done by assholes like Zeffirelli, let’s agree at least on that.
I never found the scene in R&J pornographic, it spoke to me in the way the narrative should go - young people fall in love and consume their relationship. I felt happy for them, but not turned on. If anyone IS turned on by some scenes, that’s ok too, everyone has different triggers I guess, and it can’t be helped. The fact that, let’s say, a view of an actress’s feet or an actor’s arms turns some people on doesn’t mean these things shouldn’t be depicted.
I know, right? I don’t think sex scenes are inherently bad. I also don’t think consensual sexuality in young (or old) people is inherently bad and I don’t think it’s depiction in movies is inherently bad. Let’s say my view of mutually consenting sex is very positive.
It’s the way the actors may be treated by their on-set superiors and by the general public in today’s society that’s making me worried, not the content itself. I think making this kind of movies should be possible without danger for the actors and the way to make it possible is striving for a more tolerant, more sex positive society that is more relaxed in the naked body department.
It’s just boobs.
Ok, I do agree with your view of Zeffifelli.
Just because of the dare at the end and despite me not being a downvoter, let me try and play the devil’s advocate for the “showing a minor’s breasts in a movie” thing.
Let’s strive for a society that doesn’t view a human naked body as something needlessly and automatically sexual (Shakespear or not). Women and girls should not be ashamed and afraid to show their breasts because of people sexualizing (and potentially attacking) them. A naked body, no matter the gender or age, is just a body. People should not feel they have to cover any part of it to be safe. (Let’s also note the extent of covering needed is rather culture-specific.)
I wish I could look at the scene and feel moved by Julia’s youth and her first experience of love (I feel Julia’s young inexperienced sexuality is portrayed well in the movie and it doesn’t feel gratuitous) without fearing for the safety and well-being of the actress.
It’s not like you can just get rid of popes right away, so you can as well get used to commenting their evilness level. It’s not the same as defending them, just evaluation of the current situation in historical context. There WERE worse times.
I think you just described the sad thing perfectly.
They’re hybrids, surprisingly though, they’re not man-made, or not directly. People introduced oranges and pomelos to Barbados. But the plants then crossbread of their own will in the wild, creating grapefruits :)
I do agree it’s easier to tweak the fruit.