Large corporations with any semblance of a security policy will be dumping theirs for sure. Even if everyone in the organisation needed one, the cost of a new(er) laptop is a drop in the bucket compared to other expenses, especially when compared to outages caused by cybersecurity issues.

I wholeheartedly agree.

However, it’s hard to say that AT&T, Comcast, Cox and the like aren’t all doing the same thing.

Zen has the look and polish that makes it not feel like just another Firefox clone. It’s how I imagine people feel when using Microsoft Edge and Brave; there’s enough there to keep it perceptually separated from its Chrome base.

Floorp was great, but it didn’t bring much to the table that you couldn’t already tweak yourself with base Firefox. Heck, projects like firebuilder let you build something close with a couple CLI prompts.

I would never use it as a personal browser, mostly because I really only keep 2-5 tabs open at a time for personal stuff. However, Arc has been an absolute game changer for work. Just a couple of reasons:

• The way it blend tabs and favorites prevents you from accidentally having multiple tabs of the same site open (though you still can have multiple when you want)
• Workspaces have very little friction to them, and you can control whether they are sandboxed or not, which helps greatly manage my “hats” at work
• Lots of smart keyboard shortcut options make zipping through common tasks a breeze
• Their “Tidy Tabs” button uses an LLM to group similar tabs together, which is a lifesaver during big research sessions

I hope their monitization plans succeed, because I’d hate to see this browser die.

When you’re a pirate, you can’t be picky on which booty to plunder

Perfect examples, thank you 👌

Can anyone give me examples of times Windows has done this in the past? I mean, I feel like this is true, but I legit can’t think of anything that matches this.

I understand you have qualms with Linux, and that’s plenty fine, but when the large majority of servers and smartphones around the world run it, you can’t say that no one uses it.

Anyone could just as easily say:

Windows does not compete with macOS as a desktop operating system and I doubt it ever will. It simply does not offer the compatibility and ease of use (including for power users) that macOS - for all its faults - has.

Windows isn’t compatible with Final Cut Pro, has a lackluster implementation of Adobe Photoshop comparatively, and has no support for common cli shells such as bash or zsh (without creating an emulated subsystem ala Cygwin or WSL). Setting up a Windows desktop for my day-to-day tasks is a huge pain as opposed to macOS or a Linux-based desktop OS.

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