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I’m willing to eat my words but I doubt I need to. In a world where Clair Obscur costs $50 I don’t how see how BL could be $30 better than one of the best games released this year.

She’s not just the main character towards the end, she is the main character of the story. We play Geralt, who is a side character in Ciri’s story.

Exactly. They can charge $200 if they want to but it doesn’t mean people are going to buy at that price. The price point needs to be where people are okay paying for it and I don’t see it happening at $80. Okay, I lied a bit, I see it happening for some games but not for BL4.

We’re supposed to take racism and far-right conspiracies as legitimate backlash? Normal people don’t care about shit like that. I’m with the other person, the reception was lukewarm because it played it safe.

I was talking in the context of extraction shooters. I can’t think of a single extraction shooter where you could add attachments but not remove them. I’ve also yet to see anyone familiar with the extraction shooter genre think it’s a good idea. If you think it’s a good idea you’re free to defend it.

I think Bungie still has experience making successful live service games, Destiny 2 has been a massive success for Bungie. The issue with Bungie is that they’ve forgotten how to release good games. Destiny 1 released kinda meh, but a year after launch started crawled back to being generally well received. Destiny 2 release (followed by the Curse of Osiris expansion) almost killed the studio, a year after launch started crawling back into being great and only in the last years really dropped off (when resources were pulled away from Destiny to Marathon). It feels almost like there are some head up their ass lead designers at Bungie who just won’t listen to feedback and release a shitty game. Then the live team takes over the project, listen to actual feedback and fixes the stupid shit that should’ve been fixed the first time around.

Even with Marathon they had that event where streamers (and some other media people) got to play the game at Bungie and then Bungie asked for their feedback and when they got feedback on some really stupid things (like not being able to take off attachments from guns) they just went “We know, that’s intentional”. They’re deliberately making design decisions that anyone with experience within the genre would instantly say “that’s a bad idea”. I don’t know whose head needs to be pulled out of their ass but if Bungie doesn’t want to release Marathon as a flop they need to do it quickly.

On a slightly different topic. I love how some people got to experience Marathon and Arc raiders in close proximity. Prior to the playtest people were cautiously optimistic about Marathon but Arc raiders evoked no emotion in anyone. And now it’s more than reversed. People are praising Arc raiders and Marathon is seen as a lost cause.

You said Hamas has done nothing to help the people. Is getting more privileges in the eyes of the UN not help? Palestine got more rights due to the Gaza war, which Hamas started. Like I said, I don’t condone their actions, but their actions do end up putting Israeli atrocities in the forefront which ultimately leads to more people turning against Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if some Palestinians are against Hamas. They’re a necessary evil that should be purged as soon as Israel stops trying to eradicate Palestine, but as long as Israel is oppressing Palestine Hamas is necessary if for no other purpose than to draw global attention on Palestine.

If you want Gaza to be like the West Bank then they might as well just roll over and die.

Do you think the average westerner is aware of what is happening in the West Bank?

Do you think the average westerner would be aware of what is happening in Gaza if Hamas wasn’t retaliating against Isreal?

I don’t condone what Hamas is doing, but I’m not going to be so naive to believe the western world would give a shit about Palestine if not for Hamas putting a spotlight on Gaza. We probably wouldn’t even be having this discussion without Hamas, we (in the collective sense) would be letting Isreal annex Palestinian lands with minimal criticism.

Except the production costs have also gone down. The development itself is easier thanks to better tooling and developers no longer require putting out physical media (which used to be a pretty significant part of cost).

And there’s no excuse for $80 when Clair Obscur released at $50 and is one of the best games released this year. I seriously doubt BL4 will be $30 more impressive than Clair Obscur. How about studio heads do their job and streamline their production process to make better products for lower costs instead of offloading their bloat onto the customers.

I’ve been saying it for the last decade, there’s no real “games are too expensive to make” problem. There’s only studios choosing the “go big or go home” death spiral where they inflate the budget and need a hit to stay afloat. But then after every hit the budget grows even bigger requiring an even bigger hit until eventually they’re going to flop and the studio goes under. They could just not do that and have a sustainable business. And I get that it’s not only the game developers fault. Part of the blame falls on the publishers who most likely force budgets to balloon so they could make more money (if the game is a success). But when I say they could just not do that I mean both the developer and publisher. Both of them should be smarter than that.

But clearly even with all the major flops it has been a successful strategy, because they’ve been at it since at least mid 2000s. It’s only in the recent years where it’s really starting to strain all the AAA publishers as the budgets have grown too big even for them. These price increases are an outcome of this budget ballooning. They’re feeling their bottom line taking a hit so they increase the price to mitigate the risk.

Personally I said fuck them, let it crash and let’s get more studios like Sandfall, who made an exceptional games for a reasonable price.

In the realm of turn based combat it’s pretty good. It has pretty easy to understand skills and mechanics that make it easy to pick up, but then you also get tons of modifiers (pictos and lumina) where the combinations can significantly alter how your character plays. And the timed triggers removes probably the worst aspect of turn based combat, the passivity. You can’t just sit there and wait while your character does a thing and then the enemy does a thing. You have to time your attacks but more importantly you have to identify what attack your enemy will do so you’d know if you need to dodge, parry, jump or gradient counter and then also time them correctly. It’s far more engaging than your average turn based combat.

The mediocre part of the gameplay are the side activities usually related to gestrals. I’m gonna vent now because my experience popped into my mind and it pissed me off again. Nothing infuriated me more than that stupid beach volley ball. Thank you for putting a fixed camera at an angle where it’s really hard to see the middle gestral throw and also your position in relation to where the gestral is going to land. The amount of times I lost the hard volley ball because I couldn’t see the middle gestral until it was too late really made me question how this even passed QA. And the reason I couldn’t just focus on the middle gestrals was because I had to focus on making sure my attack would actually connect with the gestral. The marker on the ground is just purely decorative as I had multiple occasions where I would attack squarely on the marker only for the gestral to still land and take a point away. AND FOR THE LOVE OF SOPHIE DO NOT THROW OUT GESTRALS FASTER THAN I CAN ATTACK. I almost beat the hardest volley ball match, except I didn’t beat it because I literally could not attack fast enough to send back the last gestral. I would just sit there, in perfect position, punching the attack button like a maniac and then watching how the gestral lands on the ground because the attack simply would not happen. Fuck beach volley. End of rant. Actually no, fuck beach volley again stupid fucking minigame. Now it’s over.

TLDR: gameplay good.