Since the people in charge went full fascist.

You keep saying this shit about me not recognizing non-Americans as people? Please tell me where I said or even implied anything of the sort.

Seems like you’re projecting.

But truly, please bring to my attention where I’ve indicated that I don’t believe non-Americans (or anyone for that matter) are human so I can correct it.

You are clearly incapable of a nuanced conversation. As I said wayyyyy back earlier in the thread I believe, I am well aware of the atrocities that the US has committed. I am not denying any of that. You seem to think that I am for some reason.

I could be wrong, but I believe they TikTok ban stuff was in motion before Oct. 7 (assuming that’s what you’re referring to). Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Because there’s no critical thought about who is delivering that information to you, where they got it from, what biases and/or agendas they may or may not have, etc…

If you are learning about the world through 15 second videos of a random internet stranger talking about a subject, then you are going to end up with a fucked up (and just objectively incorrect) worldview. But I guess it’s OK because they have a friendly face.

Yeah, and…? Does that mean we ignore the one under CCP control because… why? It’s not fair?

Also, I’m not questioning the data as it’s clearly about when they began collecting data, but that chart looks a little… sketchy. Like you pulled it from your Great Aunt’s Facebook feed in 2014. Where is the data from? That does not appear to be any kind of valid source I’m aware of in the corner. When was this made, and how much has changed since then?

US corporations are absolutely doing this as well, but that’s an argument for more regulation not to grant China free reign

Exactly this. This is their only argument against it, and it’s trash. Yeah, no shit, we know they are all doing it. Yes, we all agree that they should be dealt with as well.

Literally the only “argument” you people have.

“Wah, the other ones do it too!” yeah, no shit, and they should also be regulated. I don’t think anyone here believes otherwise. Maybe, just maybe, it makes sense to prioritize the one that’s under the control of a foreign adversary.

And even if you don’t prioritize it, this is the one that we currently have the opportunity to regulate, so why would we refuse that just because we’re not doing the same thing to the other ones RIGHT NOW? Once again allowing perfect to be the enemy of good.

Do you see now how that’s not a real argument?

It’s like if a student got caught cheating on a test, and complains that they shouldn’t get an F, because “everyone else was cheating too.” Were they cheating? Maybe. Is it relevant? Not at all.

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Yep that same Gabe.

I get it, he’s a billionaire and he’s got yachts. Billionaires should not exist, I agree. That’s a different discussion.

I’m not worshiping the dude, I’m just saying that it is unlikely that he would allow something like that. It is antithetical to Valve’s ethos up to this point.

Lol, some of us were alive and old enough to remember Obama’s foreign policy mistakes. Cool.

The world is not black and white. There are levels, and things like intentions and soft power are very important. How we use that soft power, how we posture ourselves on the world stage, etc.

We are also talking about a completely different level of fascism/authoritarianism that is about to take complete control of all aspects of our federal government. This is not the same Republican party as Reagan, or even GWB… The GOP then was awful, but they were working towards this. This is the endgame. This is what they’ve been working toward for decades.

It is going to be a complete shit show.

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Unless some major structural changes happen at Valve (Gabe leaves and/or the company goes public), I sincerely doubt they would ever do this.

You’re going to find out what real fascism is in the coming months/years.

OK. Let’s revisit this conversation in 6 months.

It’s pretty easy to not say racist and misogynistic shit if you’re not a racist and/or misogynist.

Like you realize that people aren’t out here struggling every day to not say the n word. That’s not normal.

It’s OK, let me help you out:

Remedial means: “to give a remedy,” or in this context, “to provide a corrective education in order to attain the education level of your contemporaries” (“Contemporaries” means a person living and working at the same time as you).

Preliminary means: “denoting an action or event preceding or done in preparation of something important.”

Hopefully that helps!

Gross.

Not a surprise, dude gives off those vibes in videos as well.

Some of us remember when Vice was a mean-spirited, local magazine that made fun of the way New Yorkers dressed.

Not really surprising that those people turned out to be scumbags.

Imagine being the wealthiest person on the planet, and still being this insecure.

Yes, now. BECAUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL.

You literally just proved my point.