I’m not even talking about good parents vs bad parents. I’m talking about the reasons people have kids. What is the positive reason to have children? I can’t think of one that isn’t a bad prediction, like wanting to bring a good person into the world. It’s not like raising children is a fun fair either. So it’s rewarding? Well first of all that’s selfish, second of all that’s something that people apply to literally every difficult situation they manage to get through.

So what’s the utilitarian reason for having kids? They’re all either selfish or prideful. Even if you’re a good parent.

Everyone is like “no you’re wrong” but I’m not seeing any actual counter arguments or examples of reasons to have kids that aren’t ultimately self-interested and/or bad speculation.

Well

Where is Congo?

Is it in the north?

I rest my case /s

Wish someone had done this for Reader

There ought to be a law…

If you think most people who have kids have that expectation, you’re lucky.

What if your kid ends up not growing into anything? Becoming a neckbeard on fortnite and minecraft all day?

What if your kid has three kids before she’s 21 and keeps ending up with deadbeat guys and living in seedy apartments and living off SNAP?

I want them to do whatever they find fulfilling

And if they dont?

Think of it more like someone complaining that they lost money on crypto trading.

It’s very Billy Crystal SNL “oh I hate when that happens”

Sadly, there isn’t a law against it.

Edit: But I’m sure it’s one of the very important things that the Democratic Party is totally gonna do someday like they always do whenever they have a majority in congress and/or presidency. Just you wait

I’m not about to @ people for having kids, but I have to say that in my experience, the whole idea is nothing but a conceit. People want kids for bad reasons. There’s really no sensible reason to have a child in the human world. Fine, go have kids, but don’t come back years later upset your kid is rebelling or not following your beliefs or doing bad things or not following in your footsteps or listening to your advice or whatever the fuck. You basically played a slot machine with no jackpot.

No!!! you can’t just reduce the number of peasants fighting for increasingly artificially reduced resources

god tier politics challenge: ask a blue dem to name the last time the Ds did something the opposite to what the Rs have done, and was actually good for the average American

(Not proposed, mind you, but did)

I mean this is literally a strawman post so

You mean the two party system propaganda?

Nah, delete this

I gotta admit, I can’t stand content I can’t engage with. What’s the point? It’s just grandstanding and blowharding.

Somedays I really have to question whether such people really exist. I mean really? What do they think America is?

Edit: I mean, I get it from the people in power, they want to cozy up to that power and so they will parrot its rhetoric. So companies, lobbyists, etc., sure.

But like, regular people? With day jobs? Who function in regular society going to stores and cooking food and cleaning homes and all that? What is their actual vision of America here?

Am I the only one still not seeing ads on YT with Ublock?

Can someone check in with the inventor of the web and ask him what the web’s business model is?

“I tell the future”

“Okay, tell me mine”

“Soon… You will go to Rome.”

“But I’m in Rome.”

“Do I lie?”

i’d just like to say this aged badly. not quite like milk, but still rancidly

Yes