• BonerMan@ani.social
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    3 months ago

    You can be racist against the citizens of a country. The “race” (what a shit word for humans) isn’t of matter to be racist.

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      3 months ago

      Technically since racism is prejudice + power, we’d have to know they belong to whatever ethnic group holds power to know it’s racist, it might be prejudice instead. The race actually does matter according to the sociological definition, that’s why in the US they say only white people can be racist, in China it’d be Han Chinese, etc.

      Edit: Seriously, I’m not making it up, if you disagree fine, but you disagree with sociologists not me (who is not a sociologist, but merely took two classes on it in my youth.)

      Here see for yourself:

      https://sociologydictionary.org/racism/

      (noun) Any attitude, belief, or behavior used to explain and justify prejudice and discrimination against racial or ethnic minorities, on the basis of perceived inferiority.

      By definition, any attitude, belief, or behavior used to explain and justify prejudice on a racial or ethnic majority is not included.

      I literally got suspended for saying the stuff you guys are, good thing we aren’t in American High School or College right now.

      • Mango@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Absolutely fucking not. You can be completely powerless and still racist.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 months ago

          Unfortunately according to sociologists that is not true, those people would be “prejudice” but not “racist” with the only difference being “power.”

          I was suspended for arguing against it, they seem dead set on this semantic argument.

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            3 months ago

            “They” want a free pass to be racist to others and a shield from it themselves. “They” are hypocrites.

            The idiots who think equality means “fuck the dealer” should stick to playing spades.

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              3 months ago

              …who’s “they?” Sociologists aren’t a homogenous group, some are racial or ethnic minorities, some are racial or ethnic majorities. Both my teachers were white men.

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          3 months ago

          Right, but if you’ll continue reading, it’s how schools teach it in sociology class. I didn’t make the rubric, I just got suspended for questioning it.

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            3 months ago

            But this isn’t a sociology class? It’s not even a sociology forum. Words can have different meanings and connotations in different contexts. The academic definition of a word does not automatically trump the colloquial definition, especially not in non-academic circumstances.

      • BonerMan@ani.social
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        3 months ago

        Racism can be against any group of people that are from a certain area or ethnic group power has 0 meaning for that.

        And I know that many people in the US have some mental problems regarding political words and meanings.

        Everone can be racists, Latinos and Black people are racists against each other in USA they also tend to be racist against Jewish people.

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            3 months ago

            See, there is the difference, USA is a immigration country with no coherent similarities between everyone. Especially because I spoke about two specific group’s and the fact that US public language uses words that had meaning but the average speaker ignores it and uses it as dog whistle without actually meaning anything.

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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        3 months ago

        Oh no, sociologists! Good thing they’re a hivemind, and all have the same opinion on definitions.

        If your argument is that you’re using the wrong word which ultimately means the same thing, then it’s not much of an argument. It’s pretty clear you’re trying to downplay racism to be more acceptable