If they were doing their job, they would remove dangerous “herbal” remedies people are giving to their kids and hurting or even killing them, not something that has a small chance of causing cancer if you feed a shit ton of it to a rat.
In the sense that they are both so poorly regulated that they both have contained all kinds of substances which are actively harmful to people? No, they really aren’t.
That’s like arguing cars and treadmills are the same thing. You can move in/on both of them!
Between homeopathics and herbal remedies, one is a sugar tablet (or should be unless it wasn’t made properly.) The other has been used medicinally in some form likely before Homo sapiens had even evolved. Acting like these things can all “just be regulated” is exceedingly naive. Surely you know there’s more nuance and working parts to that argument.
Oh hey, you just figured out my point… which you would have figured out to begin with if you had read the article I posted about the “homeopathic” teething remedy that gave babies seizures because it wasn’t made properly and didn’t have to be.
That’s the big point you’re holding into? This is your gotcha moment? You can’t possibly be this naive. I’m convinced you’re just arguing in bad faith. Take a break dude. There’s nothing here to be smug about. This could be a constructive discussion but it feels like you’re just stomping your feet and asking why bad things happen in the world. Have a breather. Go cool off.
No, the same thing I have been saying this entire time is not a gotcha moment.
Also, what on Earth makes you think I’m being smug? What would I have to be smug about? I’m pathetic and I’ve always been pathetic. There is nothing about me that would ever make me feel smug about anything. Feel free to have a sense of smugness over that yourself if you wish. You would be far from the first and it would not be undeserved.
In the context of this article, they are. Your argument about something else is a straw man and a whataboutism.
If you think the FDA should regulate something else that it currently does not, take it to Congress. They’re the ones who decide what the FDA does and does not regulate.
If they were doing their job, they would remove dangerous “herbal” remedies people are giving to their kids and hurting or even killing them, not something that has a small chance of causing cancer if you feed a shit ton of it to a rat.
As I showed to someone else, it took ten years for the FDA to get a company to voluntarily recall a product that was causing seizures in hundreds of babies. https://www.statnews.com/2017/04/13/homeopathy-tablets-recall/
Are you aware that homeopathics and herbal remedies are completely different things?
In the sense that they are both so poorly regulated that they both have contained all kinds of substances which are actively harmful to people? No, they really aren’t.
In fact, some claim to be both.
I don’t know where to start to try to explain the differences because you’re trying so hard to miss the point. They are not the same thing at all.
Again- in terms of the lack of regulation and the danger the pose, there is no difference. And again, products claim to be both.
Are you arguing that lack of regulation of these products is a good thing?
That’s like arguing cars and treadmills are the same thing. You can move in/on both of them!
Between homeopathics and herbal remedies, one is a sugar tablet (or should be unless it wasn’t made properly.) The other has been used medicinally in some form likely before Homo sapiens had even evolved. Acting like these things can all “just be regulated” is exceedingly naive. Surely you know there’s more nuance and working parts to that argument.
Oh hey, you just figured out my point… which you would have figured out to begin with if you had read the article I posted about the “homeopathic” teething remedy that gave babies seizures because it wasn’t made properly and didn’t have to be.
That’s the big point you’re holding into? This is your gotcha moment? You can’t possibly be this naive. I’m convinced you’re just arguing in bad faith. Take a break dude. There’s nothing here to be smug about. This could be a constructive discussion but it feels like you’re just stomping your feet and asking why bad things happen in the world. Have a breather. Go cool off.
No, the same thing I have been saying this entire time is not a gotcha moment.
Also, what on Earth makes you think I’m being smug? What would I have to be smug about? I’m pathetic and I’ve always been pathetic. There is nothing about me that would ever make me feel smug about anything. Feel free to have a sense of smugness over that yourself if you wish. You would be far from the first and it would not be undeserved.
That’s a deflection, not an answer
How is that a deflection? I don’t agree that they are doing their jobs.
In the context of this article, they are. Your argument about something else is a straw man and a whataboutism.
If you think the FDA should regulate something else that it currently does not, take it to Congress. They’re the ones who decide what the FDA does and does not regulate.