Are you with Democrats or not? You act like it’s some shadowy cabal. People just go vote in a primary. Progressives don’t win. And my main point is- Republicans voted in the primary for their far most right candidate but still voted Republican in the general. They trained the party to move to the right, like a dog.
Progressives either 1) aren’t numerous enough to do anything like that or 2) get upset and either never vote in the primary or sit out both the primary and general when their preferred person doesn’t make it.
Again, either way theyre irrelevant. This is the uncomfortable truth the op is talking about. Like Bernie and Aoc are popular yes? Holding rallies that get a lot of support? Then where are the rest of progressives?
I am left of the Democrats, and do not feel represented by what they do (regardless of what they say). I vote in Democratic primaries to try to move the party left. I vote D in the general. But you continue to dismiss what I’m saying. You seem to agree that the Republicans trained their party to move to the right but act like it’s some crazy idea that the Democrats are doing the same thing? The wrong side is winning within the Democratic Party, and we’re all going to lose everything because of it.
I’m not saying they’re a shadowy cabal. They’re very openly anti-progressive, no shadows necessary. They spend so much of primary time shitting on progressives and then complain when progressives don’t want to vote for their neoliberal hacks in the general.
If you’re taking the “progressives are irrelevant” position, please make sure to never blame progressives for the losses of the Democrats. Not even nonvoters. If we’re not important enough to justify catering to, then we’re not important enough to blame. You don’t get to eat our cake and shit in it too.
Are you with Democrats or not? You act like it’s some shadowy cabal. People just go vote in a primary. Progressives don’t win. And my main point is- Republicans voted in the primary for their far most right candidate but still voted Republican in the general. They trained the party to move to the right, like a dog.
Progressives either 1) aren’t numerous enough to do anything like that or 2) get upset and either never vote in the primary or sit out both the primary and general when their preferred person doesn’t make it.
Again, either way theyre irrelevant. This is the uncomfortable truth the op is talking about. Like Bernie and Aoc are popular yes? Holding rallies that get a lot of support? Then where are the rest of progressives?
I am left of the Democrats, and do not feel represented by what they do (regardless of what they say). I vote in Democratic primaries to try to move the party left. I vote D in the general. But you continue to dismiss what I’m saying. You seem to agree that the Republicans trained their party to move to the right but act like it’s some crazy idea that the Democrats are doing the same thing? The wrong side is winning within the Democratic Party, and we’re all going to lose everything because of it.
I’m not saying they’re a shadowy cabal. They’re very openly anti-progressive, no shadows necessary. They spend so much of primary time shitting on progressives and then complain when progressives don’t want to vote for their neoliberal hacks in the general.
If you’re taking the “progressives are irrelevant” position, please make sure to never blame progressives for the losses of the Democrats. Not even nonvoters. If we’re not important enough to justify catering to, then we’re not important enough to blame. You don’t get to eat our cake and shit in it too.