In recent years, dozens of officers worked more than 1,000 hours of overtime annually. Experts say these levels of extra work can lead to accidents and poor decision making in use of force situations.
Person A: The Police and prisons should be abolished.
This isn’t a “point” it’s just an empty statement devoid of any reason or logic.
Person B: “If you’re making wild suggestions, you should probably care about the effects it will have”
This is a person making an implication. They never define what ‘the effects’ are, they simply hanging an implication.
It’s pretty damned obvious what will happen if you abolish all enforcement of the law, people will engage in more crime because there will be little to no consequences for said crime. This is basic reasoning that doesn’t require fantastical leaps of the imagination to figure out like Person A’s statement does. We can use history as our guide for this as this has happened numerous times in places where the government has collapsed. Places like Somolia where roving gangs controlled local territories with lots of blood and violence. What historical reference can you give where all laws were abolished and something good happened?
This is a shitty conversational tactic where the person never has to take a position that can be argued against but can appear, to the ignorant, as if they are actually saying something cynical and intelligent.
This sound like a description of Person A’s statement to me.
I love how you can write a book length comment on all the reasons why it’s wrong to argue against you and the OP but have yet to give a single actual argument for why your position makes any sense or will improve anything for anyone but criminals. You can’t even describe basic concepts like how any of this would work. Even OP stated “I don’t care what happens next” meaning they’ve given their “point” zero thought or consideration. You two are absolutely ridiculous.
This isn’t a “point” it’s just an empty statement devoid of any reason or logic.
It’s pretty damned obvious what will happen if you abolish all enforcement of the law, people will engage in more crime because there will be little to no consequences for said crime. This is basic reasoning that doesn’t require fantastical leaps of the imagination to figure out like Person A’s statement does. We can use history as our guide for this as this has happened numerous times in places where the government has collapsed. Places like Somolia where roving gangs controlled local territories with lots of blood and violence. What historical reference can you give where all laws were abolished and something good happened?
This sound like a description of Person A’s statement to me.
I love how you can write a book length comment on all the reasons why it’s wrong to argue against you and the OP but have yet to give a single actual argument for why your position makes any sense or will improve anything for anyone but criminals. You can’t even describe basic concepts like how any of this would work. Even OP stated “I don’t care what happens next” meaning they’ve given their “point” zero thought or consideration. You two are absolutely ridiculous.