And it seems karmacourt will be the first to posit that the fediverse is worth “putting in its place”, going by the upvotes in such an empty community that probably discourages those kinds of suits.

  • CraigOhMyEggoAlt@lemmy.wtfOPEnglish
    27·
    2 days ago

    When you’re instance banned and try to post to a community that is going to an instance you’re banned from it will appear as if you’re posting in that community like normal, but the post won’t federate. Only users native to their instance will be able to see the posts (in Leni’s case, only lemm.ee users can see those posts). Let’s say you’re instance banned from lemmy.world. You could seemingly post to a lemmy.world community, but the post won’t actually show up for lemmy.world users.

    That’s what I mean. It still has an audience. It just uses the programming done to block people, which is the reverse than how blocking works on other websites. Those people can’t see it, but the post can still be popular, especially if it wasn’t popular in the instance the person is banned from. The fediverse was made backwards.

    I don’t know why you seem so insistent on trying to say they aren’t.

    Not what I was getting at, as it’s not as if there is no impact. Though they can technically ban her from those individual communities anytime they want. They just haven’t, except for Davel.

    Leni attempted to post in a Beehaw community. Leni is instance-banned from Beehaw. This post isn’t visible to anyone on the Beehaw instance.

    No, but it’s not invisible. This has been a major negative point about the fediverse. She can, for example, advertise some shit in link form and get traffic, minus any mod being able to do anything about it, because they can’t see it. But other people can.

    • Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      62·
      2 days ago

      What makes you think the posts cannot be reported? They exist on the lemm.ee instance. Lemm.ee mods and admins can see those posts. When you post to another instance you aren’t actually leaving your native instance. It’s more like trying to forward a letter to someone. In Leni’s case their letters to lemmy.world are never leaving the post office (lemm.ee), but the staff at the post office (lemm.ee) can still see their letters, even though the recipient (lemmy.world) isn’t getting them.

      • CraigOhMyEggoAlt@lemmy.wtfOPEnglish
        27·
        2 days ago

        but the staff at the post office

        Exactly. The whole hometown can see those letters. And very occasionally people from other instances. She has memes in places where she is supposedly banned that have upvotes in the double digits.

        Not an argument I’d make, but there’s also the fact that admins that are willing to make such bans are also often willing to ban other people on a whim. And when the going gets rough, they often go to places that are less willing to ban people for small matters. Saying this because many will use this to say lemm.ee is the inevitable future of Lemmy.