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shish_mish@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

US must be ready for simultaneous wars with China, Russia: Commission

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US must be ready for simultaneous wars with China, Russia: Commission

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shish_mish@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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Congressional review of US’s strategic posture says security environment has worsened and US needs to respond.
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  • oDDmON@lemmy.world
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    Well. That was depressing.

    Add a dash of climate change with a twist of wildfire and call it an apocalypse.

    • pensivepangolin@lemmy.world
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      No no no this will be fineeeee it’ll all be fineeeeeee cries in world war final edition

  • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works
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    This is literally how the US budgets its defense spending. How many of x do we need to fight China and Russia at the same time at their front door.

    Edit: I should probably say equipment reserves (planes and shit) because there’s a lot of dark money shit in there.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      “Dark money” I think is a hopeful euphemism for waste, graft, overcharging, etc.

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        When the DoD fails every audit, it’s that shit.

      • atetulo@lemm.ee
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        Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I recall reading something like “only 39%” of the Pentagon’s defense budget can be accounted for.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    Articles like this are just prepper wanking oil.

    The US is not duking it out with any of these countries. China is too busy making all the world’s plastic shit, and Russia’s only weapon is the ghost of Cold War past.

    • YⓄ乙 @aussie.zone
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      Yep and US is the saint trying to fix world hunger and eliminate poverty.

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    So, enough for a war with China.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      Plus like 10 guys with pointy sticks.

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    US needs more ways to justify their obscene military spending in lieu of things that actually benefit American citizens

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      Someone should start building vaults. Stock up on bottlecaps and Rad-X.

      Fiction is getting way too realistic for reality.

      • Aagje_D_Vogel@lemdro.id
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        I’m already practicing my “smooth-skin” pronunciation.

        • Dr. Bluefall@toast.ooo
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          I don’t suppose anyone knows where I can find Novac?

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            36.005970N , 114.976380W

    • it's not often that shit just works@sh.itjust.works
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      Australia was like "WTF, mate? "

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    America is more than ready, considering how much we spend on the military. This article is a few years old, and definitely sensationalist, but is still an interesting read-

    https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/how-long-the-us-military-would-last-against-the-rest-of-the-world/

    And on top of that, the US Army just started deploying robotic troop carriers, and is finishing up remote combat vehicles for the front lines so that first contact isn’t with soldiers. Yes, we’re going to have killer robots on the front line. And soon.

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      The US military is routinely overestimated in its capabilities. How much it spends is not a point of strength. China and other countries produce their equipment at cost, getting 1 dollar of value for every dollar spent. The US with its for profit system snd regulatory capture by the Military Industrial Complex, instead massively overpays for everything from missiles to spoons.

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      US also spends a lot on healthcare, just because you spend a lot of money on something doesn’t mean you produce good results. Not to mention that cost of production in US is an order of magnitude higher than in Russia or China

      Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

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    What is Russia going to do? All of their best military units are already dead both in terms of hardware and personnel.

    The Russians have already gone up against Western hardware and lost so we’ve essentially had a preview of the war except no Western forces have been engaged in that war. So apparently Russia is going to attack an enemy who is at full fighting strength when they themselves are severely depleted and are actually at this very moment relying on drafting.

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    • ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml
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      Full fighting strength? Have you not been seeing the news about low recruitment, depleted stockpiles, and jets falling from the sky? Couple this with the MIC markups meaning that the 800b+ budget only gets a fraction of that value in actual asset production. The US military is overwanked.

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        You go to the bookies with that one. See what they give you.

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    Alternatively, US could stop playing world police and start fixing its many domestic problems.

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      They aren’t even playing world police.

      Playing world police would be doing things like helping Venezuelans.

      I guarantee you, every modern instance you can think of where America is “playing world police” is actually a calculated effort to maintain its global interests. Or at least, the global interests of its ruling class.

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        well yeah, US is an extractive empire that’s subjugating the rest of the planet for the benefit of its oligarchs

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    US tries to go without a war challenge: impossible.

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/595752-the-us-has-been-at-war-225-out-of-243-years-since-1776

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    Lol, America spends enough to take on just about the whole world

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      Not with those 10000% markups they don’t.

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    Ehh, instead work with the EU & UK and offer their logistics network so they can handle Ukraine, secretly provide Taiwan nuclear warheads & start a Cuban missile crisis 2 & force a real conversation.

    Pacific too risky? Expand A2AD capabilities to Asian allies en masse, it’s gonna all be defensive wars after all

    We (Americans) should not basically have to pay for their defense

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      Um, please can we not bet the future of humanity on there being a Chinese equivalent of Vasili Arkhipov during the blockade of Cuban Missile Crisis 2: Chinatown.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov

      Let’s not sabre rattle again only to carefully de-escalate back to where we are.

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        Nah, if you don’t take chances you don’t get results lol, Minutemon for Taiwan 2024!!!

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          Least suicidal Amerikkkan

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      provide Taiwan nuclear warheads & start a Cuban missile crisis 2

      I didn’t realize that China had put nuclear missiles so close to the US, similar to the way the US put missiles in Turkey, where are they?

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        Why would we be negotiating for that??? There is no point in range anymore.

        Instead, we’ll be negotiating for shipping rights to grade B Chinese ghost city apartments & skyscrapers to bring to the USA on the cheap!!!

        They have a lessened property crisis, we have more housing for cheap that wasn’t built by our evil & corrupt government lol, everyone wins!!!

        Likely though we’d just end up negotiating the removal of nuclear weapons over a final arrangement for Taiwan’s independence or some variation of subservience (think China’s 9 points plan 1981 but with more brexit North Ireland vibes), fentanyl precursors to Mexico, and a potential final arrangement for the Korean peninsula’s path to unification, boo

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          Dude that boo was too spooky

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    Anyone trying to invade the US has to understand that besides the military and law enforcement, there are 330 million people with 400 million guns.

    Good luck!

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      iAmVeryBadass

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        It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

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      …of which one half is brain-washed into wanting to kill the other half, while welcoming any wanna-be dictator with open arms and with a lot of potential applicants for the Darwin-Awards.

      Sounds scary… but not for an invader.

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        Yeah, we would likely see large portions joining the invader after an extensive info war preceding the attack

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      • Welt@lazysoci.al
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        Or actual enemy soldier bots.

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      You know America is the belligerent party here right? Neither China nor Russia want to invade America.

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