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    the 2 big parties have been centrist for decades. Centrist politics has shifted more into conservatism in recent years. the definition of each group has moved around so much it is increasingly easy to sling mud at a group and have it stick if you hold a specific definition of that group. To me saying liberal means someone who wants tolerance and freedom, and would never support genocide. Liberals in the US are not the same as liberals elsewhere. Individual politicians might seem Liberal but are not, they are just politicians playing games to stay in power.

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      Centrist politics has shifted more into conservatism in recent years. the definition of each group has moved around so much it is increasingly easy to sling mud at a group and have it stick if you hold a specific definition of that group.

      Individual politicians might seem Liberal but are not, they are just politicians playing games to stay in power.

      Yes, exactly. These two statements are complimentary. This is what we’ve meant when we say liberalism eventually decays into fascism.

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        So you agree that OP’s picture is not accurate. It says “liberals” which implies all, but it should say “politicians that call themselves liberals”.

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            When trolls demonstrate they only see in black and white, believe them.

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              The irony of assuming everyone who disagrees with you is a troll and then accusing them of seeing in “black and white” is amusing.

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          Nope. The liberals who voted in the liberal politicians are the ones who support this slide. You are personally responsible for that. You keep believing the newest liberal politicians, and the cycle keeps repeating itself.

          fell-for-it-again