The US used to have a streak of “everybody can make it” (back when it had higher social mobility than all of Europe, which isn’t the case anymore), whilst the UK’s streak all the way from the 19th century was “you should know your place” and it only got broken for a short period roughly covering the 60s and 70s (which, not by chance, was also their peak artistic time, both in Music and the Performing Arts) when anybody did have a chance to make it no matter where they came from.

Outside that, the country was dominated by the upper and middle class who from my own experience living there for over a decade and given my own cultural references when I got there (Dutch and Portuguese) are pretty culturally backwards and prone to being performative in how they act rather than genuine (the contrast with the Dutch is huge), the higher the social class the worst (the culture amongst the “old money” upper class is nasty: for example they will gloat - in a posh way - about any display of weakness, even amongst themselves).

Society in Britain is so stratified into social classes (and, given the pretty much non-existent social mobility, means it’s lifelong) that upper class people have their own accent, which is separate from regional accents. I know a number of spoken languages and this is the only country I know where the upper class has its own accent.

As far as I can tell the US doesn’t have this deeply calcified social strata with a dominant upper class with unchallenged ideas of what is “prim and propper” dating back to the 19th century, towards whom most of the rest of society looks up and who even have their own schools and ancient univerties providng a well travelled path from Cradle to “Captains of Industy” for their children. I mean, the US does have such people and structures, but they’re nowhere as dominant over society and the structures of power (for example, there literally are almost no Judges in Britain which did not attend one of such special schools as children) and what there is in the US hasn’t been in place and doing their thing for well over a century.

Indeed.

Having lived for over a decade in Britain, including the 2008 Crash and the Leave Vote and even having been involved in Politics there (in the Green Party), the only shocking element in this for me is the almost total removal of the velvet glove that was used to cover the iron fist (not total because they’re doing the usual disguising of authoritarian oppression as “Rule Of Law” as if it wasn’t them who put those Laws), since one of the most important things the British Upper Classes learn during their years in posh Public Schools is to manage appearances.

Maybe the dropping of the posh façade is due to the influence of America or maybe it’s because they learned from the decade of Austerity after the 2008 Crash that in Britain the anger of the many is easily channeled against powerless minorities such as immigrants and the poor and there is a veritable bottomless pit amongst the “riff-raff” of people who will relentlessly defend the actions of “their betters”.

Pretty sure it had more to do with the church bombing that killed 4 little black girls, but you clearly can’t accept any examples of goodwill from whom you view an enemy.

My theory is that, “Liberals” in the Anglo-Saxon style (though the rest are going towards it too) are pretty much Fascists with different lists of “good” races and “bad” races (the kind of people who would make fun of Trump’s Oval Office by saying “it’s like a Middle Eastern dictator” - so casually voicing prejudice about the Middle East) and that means they’re also Nationalists like the Fascists or at the very least think Western society is superior.

Certainly it would explain a lot of things, including how easilly for all their proclamations of being against Racism, they’ll support a Genocide mass murdering children in the tens and even hundreds of thousands as long the genociders are from a “white race” and the victims are “non-whites” - they were never against Racism, much less Discrimination in general, only against that which targets whatever minorities it’s currently fashionable to claim to defend and even in that they stick to mainly performative support and avoid doing changes with real impact in bringing Equality of Treatment when such changes would affected the Wealthy.

Were they? That wasn’t clear to me. It sounded like they were arrested for planning to maybe write something.

Israelis are driving the genocide no matter their religion. There is proud muslim terrorists in the idf that like genocide. The problem is zionism not judaism

Because you’re equating Palestine Action with fucking ISIS and indirectly called them a “terrorist organization.”

I am asking which of the protestors that supported Palestine action are supporting isis