• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    No, I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Politics are good in games when done right, but they can also be nothing more than a distraction when the narrative has huge errors or lacks and depth in general.

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      2 months ago

      I mean, yeah, good writing is good and bad writing is bad.

      I think the article is going against the idea that politics should be kept away from games.

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        2 months ago

        Politics in games isn’t the issue.

        It’s the concept of pushing real world politics in games that is the problem.

        Sometimes they can overlap, but they needn’t to. Some things are just obviously pushing the agendas of developers, instead of making it feel like a legit part of the game universe.

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          2 months ago

          I don’t really get this sentiment.

          Elves being racist towards dwarves is acceptable in a game, but white humans being racist towards hispanic humans is “pushing agendas”?

          I fault Bioware for a lot of things, but failing to invent a fantasy equivalent of the concept of gender is not one of them. Not everything needs to be moved to an otherworldly analogy just to avoid hurting the feelings of bigots.

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    2 months ago

    The rightwing/gamergate side not contesting this whole issue being called “Politics in videogames” is the biggest blunder. I don’t know the best way to call this phenomenon (political preaching?) but surely there is a better phrase. Right now you can’t talk about this stuff without getting hit by “Oh, you claim to hate politics in videogames yet you love Bioshock” type retort, when the actual thing people have problems with are californian nutcases pushing their views on US political crap onto the player as if it were gospel.

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      2 months ago

      What is wrong with Californian views on identity politics, when it’s not just bad writing? Is it the acknowledgement of people that are gender nonbinary?

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        2 months ago

        I just dislike a lot of the studios based there (Insomniac, naughty dog, ubisoft) for how hard they try to push POC/minority representation in their games. Especially when it doesn’t make sense (black samurai)

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          2 months ago

          The black samurai is literally a historical figure. What do you mean “it doesn’t make sense”?

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            2 months ago

            I just think it’s bizarre to have a black dude protagonist in a historical japanese setting. I’ve read through the sources on Yasuke and I think it’s a stretch to say he was like a full fledged samurai. Especially given that the biggest proponent of that theory, Thomas Lockley, made some sketchy edits between the Japanese and English version of his book on him.

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              2 months ago

              I just think it’s bizarre to have a black dude protagonist in a historical japanese setting.

              Why? He is a historical figure. Why does a historical figure in his historical setting feel bizarre?

              I’ve read through the sources on Yasuke and I think it’s a stretch to say he was like a full fledged samurai.

              Potato potato. Why him being a “full fledged samurai” even matters? The series is known to take creative liberties with history.

              Seriously ask yourself why having ONE SINGULAR black protagonist in a series where protagonists have so far been overwhelmingly white feels like “black people getting pushed into games”.

              Because to me, it sounds like you have seen too many opinions of people getting outraged and because of that you internalized their views without asking yourself why they (and now you) feel the way they do.