I downvoted maybe 3 posts for being “unwise”, but I guess that’s not allowed. Looked up the mod and they banned a wave of people, all for “…”. Good stuff.
This “banned for using the functions of the website” shit is really getting out of hand. Unless it’s unequivocal support for every post, you’re out. It’s ridiculous out here.
Also! We still can’t block communities we’ve been banned from? Wtf?
https://lemvotes.org/user/ech@lemmy.ca
voting history
And your old lemm.ee account
Out of curiosity, what was your motivation for posting this?
The OP made a post about their own voting behavior being a issue a moderator banned them for. Looking at their voting record is part of evaluating the the amount of Power Tripping Bastard the moderator is. OP is inviting us to examine their situation to render a judgement.
Their extreme preference for downvoting is a factor here, it is illustrated by their voting record.
I wouldn’t call someone who upvotes more than they downvote “extreme preference for downvoting”. That would be a “slight preference for upvotes”.
If you look at their post voting they downvote 240% more then they upvote.
Compared to your good self who downvotes 11% as much as they upvote.
Not sure why we are looking only at post voting when that is in all cases a sliver of users’ total votes. In this users case, if you include both posts and comments, they upvotes more than they downvote on both accounts.
Also not sure why my personal upvotes/downvote are being evaluated just because I made a single comment on this thread.
it was illustrative to compare OP against a normal user.
And since you are the person I’m talking with, what example would be more relevant?
That’s fair. Did this link show he’s aggressively down voting stuff from that community though? I’ll be honest, I didn’t look at it very hard. I don’t know that website and its hard to tease that info out at a glance.
Not really sure why his old account is relevant either… was he down voting things in this community on this account as well?
Basically, has he really down voted enough to cop a ban? Like, am I wrong, the wise community is a meme community right (I genuinely do not know). Did he go through and down vote a few things or everything?
Since ban evasion is quite easy for now with the federated nature, someone just coming back with a different account is very annoying and in itself a reason to ban the new account.
I had to deal with a serious ban evader in one community that i moderate. Once people show that they don’t respect the decision and are not seeking to resolve any disputes about it through communication, there isn’t really any coming back imo. Then it amounts to a game of “whack-a-mole”.
True… but is this applicable in this instance? Isn’t lemm.ee a closed instance? He didn’t make a new account for ban evasion, he can’t use his old account. He even named his new account the same thing.
If there’s an example here of whatever bad behavior happening on the old account as well, I would agree with you. However, unless someone actually wants to find the number downvotes for Ech on wiseposting it’s not really applicable imo. It seems like there is a real problem in the fediverse (mass downvoting) but no one is really providing proof that Ech has done this, only that he tends to downvote a lot. Might not be targeted, might be he’s just stingy with his upvotes which throws his ratio off.
I don’t know anything about wise. I’m not making a judgement if this ban was justified or not. I’m providing the context someone can use to help make their own decisions.
I can see why a moderator might exclude someone with this past behavior from their community and not give them the benefit of the doubt.
Yea idk at a quick glance its kind of a AITA-style community with less drama involved and probably more humor.
If he was banned for downvoting literally everything the mod was justified.
If he got banned because he is a negative Nancy like you describe, bit of power trip. If he downvoted only a couple things, also a power trip. The single mod may be trying to manipulate scores for his community to get seen. That’s all just my opinion.
Great fucking reply and well-thought out!
Interesting data
Those are rookie ratios, gotta pump those numbers up.
I’m sure mine is much worse because I think this place is full x with idiots and bad opinions.
List of votes for bananaisaberry@lemmy.zip:
Total post upvotes: 8
Total post downvotes: 15
Total comment upvotes: 107
Total comment downvotes: 90
Not bad, not bad!
I wonder if my old .ee account is worse. That said, I feel like all I do is downvote. Maybe that’s just a bias toward remembering bad interactions than good.
Damn. I’m a really apathetic voter.
I upvote way more than I expected to. It feels like all I do is downvote, but my ratio is a bit less than 2:1 in favor of upvotes.
What a creepy thing to post.
Only if it demonstrates a creep.
Ooo! Someone is triggered. The sockpuppets are coming out to vote on this comment…
https://lemvotes.org/user/giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I don’t have a dog in this fight, the data is the data, the data says what it says. I didn’t provide any spin. If you don’t like the data, be different.
Is it really that easy to pretend all downvotes are from puppet accounts in order to protect your own beliefs?
Not pretending, that is why I provided the data. Some of them.
And what is my belief? I didn’t say anything in the comment, just linked to OPs actions. I’m not defending some philosophical position. OP wants us to evaluate their behavior, and this data is necessary to do so.
It’s almost like some people have a vested interest in wanting to downvote “anonymously” while preventing others from being able to do anything about the result? :-P
Yeah, look at this. This is from r/television, sorted by new.
https://i.imgur.com/3pWsxw1.png
Look at the scores of EVERYTHING. Most stuff on there that doesn’t soar (because its a notable news piece) gets heavily downvoted right out of the gate. I’m not saying all of those threads are great and deserve ++ upvotes, but you just never see this sort of thing at scale on Lemmy - and this is due to public voting practices.
I see it, but yeah I also see what you mean: the scale of it happening here is lesser.
Keep in mind though that the default of collapsing or even hiding controversial content is something like 10 downvotes per every upvote for the former and far more for the latter (2x? 5x? I don’t want to create a new account just to find the current set of defaults but those are what I recall from many months ago when I created this one). Someone could in theory put ridiculous values in the boxes to hide every post with zero upvotes and one downvote, but that is extremely far from the intended use case scenario.
But sure I’ll bite: so what if someone did that though - if that was their choice, then stupid as it might be, and regardless of how it may leave no content leftover after the downvote brigades got through with their efforts, but even so, if someone CHOSE that for themselves, then you have not explained why they should be prevented from screwing themselves over in that manner?
Oh, no I haven’t said people should be prevented from downvoting. It’s simply that on Lemmy, because you can be held accountable (righly or wrongly) by community mods for how you downvote on their community, that it mitigates compulsive downvoting.