I downvoted maybe 3 posts for being “unwise”, but I guess that’s not allowed. Looked up the mod and they banned a wave of people, all for “…”. Good stuff.

This “banned for using the functions of the website” shit is really getting out of hand. Unless it’s unequivocal support for every post, you’re out. It’s ridiculous out here.

Also! We still can’t block communities we’ve been banned from? Wtf?

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    Another day, another reason why the fediverse needs private voting. It’s a shame rimu gave into politics and killed the feature from piefed the moment it became a slightly sticky issue.

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        I care about that far less than I care about not having every vote I cast recorded forever by anyone subscribed to the fediverse feed. I care about that far less than power tripping mods and admins being terminally online and using that vote for censorship purposes.

        At the end of the day, brigading is mostly an ego thing anyway. If you just stop caring about votes then they can’t hurt you.

        Having votes be public doesn’t actually fix the astroturfing problem anyway since it’s still possible to just create sockpuppet accounts anyway. To a bad actors, it doesn’t matter if that sockpuppet is voting from the plaintext user string, or an agent pseudonym. Someone who wants to bot farm the fediverse will still make it happen.

        If anything, public votes will make the inevitable enshitification of the fediverse worse, because it will give the viral marketing and political sockpuppet accounts more engagement to parse.

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          I care about that far less than I care about not having every vote I cast recorded forever by anyone subscribed to the fediverse feed.

          Well I think there’s a good argument that account vote history should disappear after X months anyway, as after that long it becomes worthless anyway. Which is how Piefed currently works by the way.

          At the end of the day, brigading is mostly an ego thing anyway. If you just stop caring about votes then they can’t hurt you.

          It’s not though. Brigading or just a small number of committed chronic downvoters can throttle the spread of a post. Downvote trolls can be a problem for small communities trying to build up as they can successfully bury threads. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee community and when I banned them (about 5 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn’t all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and they had no contribution to their names. Some of the accounts in question literally had no posting history. These accounts just existed to downvote.

          Having votes be public doesn’t actually fix the astroturfing problem anyway since it’s still possible to just create sockpuppet accounts anyway.

          Which are all visible publicly and can get banned, and in this case, get instance banned - not just community banned. It doesn’t stop it from ever happening, but it’s more likely you will get banned for that behaviour.

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            I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee community and when I banned them (about 5 of them?) it had a huge impact.

            I noticed same thing. I’m actually shocked that so many on Lemmy are still surprised at how many serial downvoters we have.

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      I disagree. That some community owners are petty about it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t cultivate a wider high-trust community.