Jerry Seinfeld likened the Free Palestine movement to the Ku Klux Klan — even saying those who use the phrase “Free Palestine” are worse than the white supremacist group — at a student event at Duke University meant to honor hostages who are being held in Gaza.
Seinfeld spoke at the school in Durham, North Carolina, to introduce a former Israeli hostage, Omer Shem Tov, when he made the remarks, according to the university’s student newspaper, The Duke Chronicle. He reportedly started by saying, in reference to the Free Palestine activist movement, “Just say you don’t like Jews.”
“By saying ‘Free Palestine,’ you’re not admitting what you really think. So it’s actually — compared to the Ku Klux Klan, I’m actually thinking the Klan is actually a little better here, because they can come right out and say, ‘We don’t like Blacks, we don’t like Jews.’ Okay, that’s honest,'" the Chronicle reported Seinfeld said.
“Seinfeld spoke at the school…”
He really shouldn’t be in a school
Maybe.
“I don’t care about Palestine,” says the comfortable billionaire. He doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about the issue. He’s just OK with genocide as a final solution, like the vast majority of Israel.
“I don’t preach about [the war]. I have my personal feelings about it that I discuss privately. It’s not part of what I can do comedically, but my feelings are very strong.”
His feelings:
I mean, no one should be surprised. Seinfeld has been a zionist from day one. Most of the cast of the show Seinfeld were zionists. Zionists are unfortunately a lot more present in media than anyone would like to believe, in addition to having many positions of power.
Are you trying to say Jews run Hollywood? /s
Clarification regardless of the “/s”: Even if Jews did run Hollywood I wouldn’t have an issue, as I have zero issues with people of Jewish faith. I have a strong hatered of Zionists, but on a global polulation level they’re just a very powerful minority.
Agreed.
The old “If you don’t support our atrocities, you’re a racist” strategy.
It’s a sibling to the Bush era “If you don’t support our war crimes, you’re a terrorist.”
People with Critical Thinking Skills don’t respond to such nonsense. Anyone who does, is outing themselves as a gullible fool.
Jerry Seinfeld? The man who, at 39 years old, dated a 17 year old high school student?
*Raped
As gross as this is, and clearly a 17 year old is not an adult by any real standard, but depending on the state it was legal. Just fucking gross and wrong immortal and he should be shamed into Oblivion for doing it.
This is the real answer. Really, really gross, just not necessarily illegal.
Age of consent varies. Example in Victoria Australia is it’s within 2 years until 16, anyone from 16 as long as they’re not your teacher or someone else with authority, and then 18 anyone older than 16.
Prevents stupid shit like I’ve heard from the US where an 18 year old gets booked because the parents don’t like that their 17 year old is having sex…
Don’t look up the age of consent in China, they’ve really dropped the ball on that one 👀
Did she claim she was raped?
That’s why statutory rape is a thing. It can legally be rape even if the victim doesn’t object, because the victim was not legally capable of consenting. Children who have been groomed often believe that the sex was consensual, but they were legally incapable of consenting.
Didn’t exactly answer my question.
Because the question is inherently flawed; With statutory rape, it doesn’t matter what the victim claims. The victim can claim it was consensual, but it’s still rape.
The question was simple, and the answer was no. And what a waste of time otherwise
Don’t be deliberately obtuse.
Let me clairify. The issue is question of how much experience someone needs to be able to make an INFORMED conscent choice with someone who has the Privledge of more time. It’s easy to lie to the young.
If you don’t care about informed consent, no one cares about you, so you needn’t bother replying.
Jesus Christ. How are so many wealthy people pedophiles in this country?! I bet he’s on the fucking Epstein list.
Wealth isnt accumulated via strong moral character. It favors the unscrupulous.
in reference to the Free Palestine activist movement, “Just say you don’t like Jews.”
Fuck Jerry Seinfeld and this dishonest bullshit. Hiding Israeli crimes behind false accusations of anti-Semitism.
Dried up has-been should leave the public stage.
More like a dried-up never-was. He was cast in his eponymous show precisely because he was such an unlikeable, mediocre comedian.
I don’t know much about the origins of that show. I do agree that he has always been highly overrated and received undue credit that should go to the writers and Larry David. Then he didn’t do anything for 20 years and now he wants to pretend he’s the “king of comedy”.
You know, its kinda crazy that everyone has conveniently forgotten Palestinians are Semites.
I have to wonder what happens the day the Ashkenazi sect of Judaism loses control of the country and more militant factions decide they aren’t pure enough. Will Jerry Seinfield still want to vacation in Tel Aviv?
i don’t know if anyone worked as hard as Jerry Seinfeld to ruin his own reputation insistently for so long.
I mean, he’s doing a great job of it, but there are a lot of other sensational examples
Musk, Russel Brand, Kanye, Gervais, Rogan, Rowling, Dilbert guy…
You could argue none of them were as big a self inflicted fall I guess, but they were all, at times, thought of in pretty high esteem by a lot of of people, and then, well, you know.
I’m familiar with the rest of them, what did Gervais do?
Been a while since I’ve heard about him tbf, but IIRC he jumped on the whole “can’t do comedy anymore because they’ll cancel you” shtick when getting criticised for transphobic jokes/remarks.
I guess his is less offensive and more lazy. Just started rambling like an old man about cancel culture and comedy dying and hisow comedians “speak secret truths” instead of realising that the material wasn’t funny and was offensive and working on improving that.
He’s definitely the weakest example from the list, I’d put him in the same vein as Chapelle actually.
He strikes me as the one genuine example of doing edgy jokes because he actually likes edgy jokes.
exposes that Stephen Merchant was the funny guy all along.
more directly, he leans into the “legalize comedy” stuff basically, pretends that he’s too edgy and people constantly want to cancel him. when in reality he’s just doing transphobic hack comedy. he’s just generally super cringe.
my favorite thing about him is James Acaster mocking the shit out of him on one of his shows.
He laughs at his own jokes.
I, too, would like to know how Gervais ended up on that list.
Will Smith
Gervais doesn’t belong on this list
I don’t think this even dents it compared to his “what’s the deal with high school girls” thing.
Jerry Seinfeld is a pedophile
He also met his current wife on cruise, while she was on her honeymoon.
Imagine that? She gets married, goes on her honeymoon, and some rich and famous comedian notices her, and she just dumps her new husband for the rich guy, proving what a piece of shit she is. It probably didn’t feel like it at the time, but her ex-husband dodged a giant bullet.
This sounds like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm
he’s probably on the files
We don’t like innocent people being killed. This isn’t hard.
Yeah the one who claims to be a comedian on his taxes but I literally cannot find a video of him doing a set that makes humans laugh.
Telling people they’re antisemitic for being against the genocide of Gazan civilians doesn’t convince them they’re antisemitic. It just makes them question how many other people have been falsely labeled antisemitic
The atrocities being committed against civilians are horrible. This is 100% a genocide, and the IDF is hoping they can finish the job before someone steps in and stops them
Agreed. So Hamas needs to surrender or be eliminated.
What Israel is doing with blocking humanitarian aid and having seemingly zero care about civilian casualties is abhorrent. But this only ends with the complete destruction of Hamas.And this kids, is what we call Cognitive Dissonance.
Silent part of this abhorrent argument is that as long as at least one Palestinian live, there is no certainty that Hamas was completly destroyed.
No. They could lay down arms, stop firing rockets at Israel, and return hostages. How hard is that to grasp?
They’re murdering children. Go ahead and weasel out of that.
Weasel out of what? I’ve alsready condemned what Israel is doing. Just as I condemn what Hamas is doing. You?
Do you see anyone cheering for Hamas?
Yes, indirectly. Whenever any blame is put on Hamas it gets a barrage of deflection attacking Israeli actions. Some people even outright support Hamas and cite Israel’s actions.
Have you considered that killing people’s children (directly or indirectly through forces like starvation, lack of medical care, etc.) might be one of the best recruitment motivators for Hamas?
Yeah, it’s probably not great for Israel long term. But Hamas will never allow peace while Israel exists. Kinda fucked up all around.
Yeah, it’s probably not great for Israel long term.
“Not great” you say?
Israel may end up nuked. It seems inevitable at this point. And its like zionists couldnt care less about the danger they put themselves and the rest of the world in.
Seems like the whole world is rushing to wwiii. Fucking cray cray
And Israel could have ended this on October 8 by releasing the thousands Palestinian hostages they were holding without charges, without trial, in prisons treat viciously. Thats what Hamas asked for and why. Hamas took hostages to trade back their people with.
Israel wanted to keep holding people without charge and have a reason to bomb and steal from civilians more than they wanted their own hostages back.That’s one of the things they asked for. They also demand the elimination of the state of Israel and vowed for there never to be peace until that happened.
Why shouldn’t the genocidal apartheid ethnostate known as israel be eliminated the same way nazi germany was?
Note that Germany wasn’t eliminated. In fact it’s as strong and as large as ever. It was just the government that changed. Yes - I think the right wing Israeli government should be kicked out, either by democracy or external pressure. But that won’t be the end of Israel.
If I had a shekel for every nonsensical argument Israel frames as “elimination of the state of israel” or “kill us all” or “drive us into the sea”, I’d be a rich person.
Hamas did not demand the elimination of the state of Israel. You’re just making stuff up.
This is why peace negotiations with zionists are so hopeless. You lie about whats going on because you never wanted peace, you just want to not be seen as murderers and thieves. Look at the polls, thats not working. Even in the US. You need to stop digging the hole you are standing in and start being honest here.
It’s in Hamas’ charter. It’s what they chant. I know you don’t want believe that narrative (me neither), but that doesn’t make it less so.
I’m not an Israeli or a Jew or affiliated to any degree except I have some Jewish friends - some who live or who have lived in Israel, just as I have some Palestinian friends. Palestinians that I’ve talked to who are out of the control of Hamas say that Hamas is pure evil. Such Palestinians don’t support the killing of civilians in Gaza any more that I do and they see Israel’s latest policies as abhorrent, as do I. Of course most of them got out of that area of the world when they had a chance because they recognize that there’s too many stubborn assholes on both sides that will never accept any feasible peace despite the incredible harm such a position does.
Militants are on the order of 1 in 40 people in Gaza. Even if they should lay down their arms Israel should still push them off their lands and kill them to make way for illegal settlers as they have been doing
So, with Israel incapable of eliminating Hamas without eliminating Palestinians, I take it you’re in favour of genocide, then?
No.
Do you enjoy debating with strawmen?It’s the reasonable consequence of what you’re saying. Israel’s war is genocidal - we can all see that, from the absurd number of civilian deaths, to the use of starvation as an indiscriminate weapon, to the statements about mass population removals. Even if you purposefully ignore that reality, only the willfully stupid can deny that Israel’s war is in flagrant breach of the principles of proportionality and discrimination between combatants and non-combatants.
So we start from a position where Israel is committing horrifying war crimes and murdering children every single day in extremely cruel ways.
It is also completely evident that it is impossible to eliminate Hamas. Just like it was impossible to eliminate the Taliban, or Al-Qaida, you can’t destroy a resistance movement by force. You can prevent (some) terrorist attacks committed by those movements by force, but all attempts at destruction result in new recruits, unless you destroy the entire population among which the resistance exists.
So you are saying that “this only ends with the complete destruction of Hamas” which is only possible by the complete destruction of the Palestinian people. You only make demands of Hamas, not of Israel, even though Israel is perpetrating crimes against humanity every single day and has killed orders of magnitude more Palestinian civilians in this war than Hamas did in the instigating event (never mind before 2023). That favours their genocide.
Well written. And I do call for Israel to stop its wonton disregard for civilian safety and their embargo on aid - not that my voice means much. I do avoid the g word because it’s not well defined and I don’t think it’s useful. I agree that Hamas cannot be completely destroyed - but I think the Israeli perspective is that it can be meaningfully reduced so as to provide some period of peace (for Israelis). As unacceptable as it is, their response to the Oct attack will likely dissuade further such actions for a while.
Was Hamas around 70 years ago? Why did they kill Palestinians before Hamas was even created you fucking donkey
There were equivalents.
Whatever makes you feel like a hero, you waste of carbon.
And all this does is continue the cycle. You think these kids are going to grow up and not hat Israel?
Most people in Israel already wear funny little hats ;-)
But seriously, no I don’t think it will work. But it will possibly buy a significant delay. It might help long term if Israel then made huge overtures to improve the quality of life for people in Gaza, to lay out a fair path to dual state solution and stopped pushing settlements (and backed out of many). But of course we know that won’t happen, and even if it did, radicals (on both sides would do their best to scuttle the progress)
Maybe the state of Israel shouldn’t have funded Hamas to break student strikes.
And maybe Israel shouldn’t have funded the potable water systems in Gaza since they were used to make rockets. Things get fucked up in unpredictable ways. Hindsight is 20/20.
Murdering tens of thousands of kids women and non-coms creates millions of people like Hamas. You wouldnt run out of hamas to kill because you are making 10 for every one you kill. Your thinking ends with either the genocide of the Arab world or the Israeli one.
You can end a war by killing an army but you cannot murder an idea or a movement in the same way.
How can you not see peace has to come from different thinking?
How can you not see peace has to come from different thinking?
They dont want peace. They want land, and they dont consider humans who arent jews to be eligible for basic human rights. Its in the basic laws of their constitution. Its literally what makes Israel “israel”. Racism and supremacy codified into law.
Certainly. But Hamas also has stated unequivocally that it will never allow peace while Israel exists. What can Isreal ever do to get peace?
Cant get peace if you dont try.
I agree. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people in Israel and around the world gave up on peace in our lifetimes after the Oct attacks.
Continue killing combatants while not murdering 2 million people?
That would be ideal. But how feasible is it to kill combatants without any civilian casualties?
Not to justify their actions in any way, but for the sake of honesty, the Israelis haven’t killed anywhere near that many.Its very much so
But this only ends with the complete destruction of Hamas.
Or the IDF, right?
Sure. But that seems even less likely.
So there are two options, and you just hate Palestinian children?
If it were my choice I’d have everyone lay down their arms immediately and work toward a long term peaceful solution which respect all parties and fairly shares the land. I’d do anything to bring peace and save Palestinian children. But back in the pragmatic world, I can see that Israel isn’t planning on stopping its actions as there’s no incentive (except morals, which don’t seem to matter to them). I dont understand why Hamas doesn’t surrender as continuing gives them nothing, and it enables the continued bloodshed of the civilians in Gaza. I think if global messaging focused more on calling for Hamas to surrender, we might actually get somewhere.
What a complete retard you are.
I know you are, but what am I?
If there is one thing we’ve learned over the past 25 years, it’s that there is no such thing as the destruction of a terrorist organization
The more civilians you murder, the more new recruits that terror cell has in their family members
The IDF if fully aware of this. They know they can’t wipe out Hamas. They’re looking to wipe out all Gazans
IRA , Tamil Tigers, That Spanish basque group (eta?). Going further back, the weather underground in the U.S. it’s a mixed bag of negotiations and military/police defeat.
TIL Jerry Seinfeld is genocide supporter. Anyway, he is a fucking rich comedian, he knows nothing about anything. He thinks tha being jew or white american gives you rigth to kill entire nation. Scumbag.
Jerry Seinfeld is also a pedophile: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jerry-seinfelds-17-year-old-girlfriend-saga-resurfaces-after-duke-walkout/
Jerry Seinfeld is also a pedophile: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jerry-seinfelds-17-year-old-girlfriend-saga-resurfaces-after-duke-walkout/
While Jerry’s statement “‘Free Palestine’ are worse than the Ku Klux Klan” is absolutely moronic, he is not attracted to prepubescent children:
“Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.” ―https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
There’s actually a separate word for people who prey on teenagers, if you want to be precise. I don’t remember what it is. I’m not up to date on my varieties of sex offender and I don’t want to put that in my search history.
Ephebophilia.
It’s definition is “pedo, but closer to the line.”
still illegal
Unfortunately a majority(? cba counting) of states have age of consent below 18, New York, where this happened based on the snopes article someone else linked, is 17. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States
still illegal
Apparently it wasn’t:
“The minimum legal age of consent to sex in New York is now and was then 17. They dated for approximately four years, from 1993 to 1997. During the relationship, she transferred from George Washington University to UCLA, in part to be with Seinfeld; she cited constant press coverage and missing New York City as reasons for the relationship ending.” ―https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshanna_Lonstein_Gruss
I don’t understand why people feel the need to call others things they’re not and simultaneously want to be taken seriously in a debate. If words have no meaning then what’s the point? Jerry Seinfeld strikes me as a pretentious greedy immoral douchebag and his comparison with the KKK can stand on its own as a proper reason for ridicule.
While agree that words should have meanings, he definitely still was nearly 40 and apparently preferring the company of a 17 year old. Not a pedo by the evidence presented, ok, but that ice is thin.
The term is “sleazebag” or “pederast” if you want to get technical
While agree that words should have meanings, he definitely still was nearly 40 and apparently preferring the company of a 17 year old. Not a pedo by the evidence presented, ok, but that ice is thin.
That’s not thin ice. Paedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children, i.e., below the age of 13. Here’s where the ice is at its thinnest to diagnose someone as a paedophile, while ethically one is already submerged of course, when acted upon. It’s obviously not to be taken lightly with traumatic life-changing consequences when indulged. This is why it’s important to not throw terms around ignoring their meaning. People who actually are born with this condition should find ways to get psychological help to prevent it manifesting into reality. Irresponsibly throwing reputation destroying terms around causes people not to communicate, to suppress, and in the worst cases to satisfy their urges in secret which in turn increases the most wicked forms of suffering.
The aforementioned conditions are not at all present in Seinfeld-Lonstein’s case, where context matters. Here’s a quote from a book I’m reading which is an apt litmus test to decide if any relationship is weird or not.
“I spent Saturday evening at Leonberg. In Lisa [Remppis] I’ve found a person I can love wholeheartedly. Don’t misunderstand me, though. I realize Lisa’s half a child still, and I’m not depriving her of her childishness. I can’t philosophize with her.” ―Hans Scholl, At the Heart of the White Rose: Letters and Diaries of Hans and Sophie Scholl
Judging from the sources I’ve read Shoshanna and Jerry were able to talk to each other without one manipulating the other. While it’s statistically more unlikely considering their indeed unusual age gap, it does happen. They had a relationship for four years, so clearly it seems she was fine with it. Conversely, I’ve seen people in their thirties talk to each other where one was clearly dumbing themself down when talking to their significant other, which seemed quite weird.
TL;DR: there’s a night and day difference between actual indulging paedophiles who cause human trafficking and unimaginable suffering/death, and haphazardly being attracted to someone in their late adolescence. Conflating the two does the victims and the justice system a disservice. The former belongs to the most horrible forms of human depravity, while the latter, well, doesn’t. If one needs to manipulate another to form a connection, then it is ethically wrong regardless of age.
Ok, so the guy goes for as young as he possibly can and we’re going to assume that that confirms that he wouldn’t going any younger if he could? That’s the thin ice I’m talking about. I agree that we cannot call him a pedophile because there is no direct evidence of it, I’m on board with that, but his actions are not doing a lot for him. If he said “oh yea I like 24 year olds and older” that’s still weird for his age but it shows that his limit is a personal one and not a legal one.
It’s also weird that he says he could love someone whole-heartedly but also couldn’t properly communicate with her on more nuanced topics. Like, what made this minor so great and why could he not find that in anyone between 30-45y/o?
“Just say you don’t like Jews.”
Yeah that makes total sense. Obviously, if I feel like a group of people deserve to not be genocided, that means I don’t like Jews. So “liking Jews” = You must want to destroy another culture.It’s when they start saying nonsensical shit like this that you got to look up someone’s age. Seinfeld is 71 and saying stupid things. Go to bed gramps.
He’s also a groomer/pedophile. Check out who he was dating while shooting Seinfeld.
Seriously fucking shit?! I’m so old!
Isn’t this the guy who raped an underaged girl?
You are going to need to be way more specific than that in this day and age.
He “dated” a 17 year old high school student when he was 39. He originally met her when she was like 15 or 16.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s of the Epstein list
For Seinfeld, I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t a customer of Epstein.
“Just say you don’t like Jews.”
Equating Israel and/or Zionism with Jews is antisemitic. You outed yourself there, Jerry.
seinfeld is a pedofile zionazi.
I like jews. Free palestine.
Nail on the head. It’s not that nuanced, Jerry!
I’m a Jew. Free Palestine.
I think all religion is made up bullshit fairytales for adults. Free Palestine and free Ukraine!
