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  • tal@olio.cafe
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    12 hours ago

    What I want to do is find out what the maximum size battery I would need in order to store all of summer’s electricity for use in winter.

    I mean, I think that it’s probably not a good idea for this guy to try to go fully off-grid if he has access to the grid, but for the sake of discussion, if one were honestly wanting to try it and one is in the UK, I’d think that one is probably rather better off adding a wind turbine, since some of the time that the sun isn’t shining, the wind is blowing.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/322789/quarterly-wind-speed-average-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/

    Wind speed averages in the United Kingdom are generally highest in the first and fourth quarters of each calendar year – the winter months.

    The UK is one of the worst places in the world in terms of solar potential:

    https://globalsolaratlas.info/

    But it’s one of the best in terms of wind potential:

    https://globalwindatlas.info/

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      9 hours ago

      Right but he’s not serious, he’s just doing a “in theory, what would it look like?”

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      10 hours ago

      I could probably get away with putting solar panels on my roof but I think my neighbours would have something to say about a wind turbine. They’re pretty loud.

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      11 hours ago

      Small wind turbines are really, really poor. You need to go high to access the good air-streams and wide to get useful efficiency out of the turbine. Any wind turbine you put on your roof will vastly under-perform for the cost spent on it.

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        Not true, a wind turbine is dirt cheap for the power it can generate compared to solar panels.
        Here the problem is regulation that makes it impossible if you have neighbors within 500 m.
        If it wasn’t for regulation a wind turbine would be a clearly better investment than solar panels.
        A huge advantage with turbines is also that it tend to generate power when you need it the most for heating your house.

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          That’s because they are big mechanical whirring machines. Solar panels are dead quiet and don’t throw intermittent shade and have a very low risk of causing damage in the surrounding. There’s good reasons they are forbidden for the average household to put on top of the chimney…

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        11 hours ago

        I’d be pretty comfortable saying that buying enough battery storage to power-shift a year of power is more expensive.

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          11 hours ago

          O, absolutely. The reality is the only reasonably economic way to do off-grid is with solar, battery, and a diesel or propane generator to top off the batteries when solar isn’t cutting it.

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            9 hours ago

            There is another option. Reduce your energy usage so much that you barely need anything. Cabin in the woods with wifi?

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              That’s not really a viable option, you need to be able to wash your clothes, and make your dinner, and cool your food, and have light to see.
              Sure it’s possible to reduce it, but there is a limit where it becomes extremely inconvenient.

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                LEDs use very little power, with the cabin in the woods idea I would think its fairly safe to say a log fire is used for cooking, same thing to heat some water for cleaning. Fridge really doesn’t use much power if you look for something energy efficient, or just don’t have one. Its not like you can’t live without it.

                I would have thought saying cabin in the woods kinda implies not having some things and living a simpler lifestyle?

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                Sure, why not. But I was thinking a 4/5G router takes very little power, then a steam deck doesn’t take that much either. If that is all you need, few hundred w solar panels and a decent sized camping battery will probably do just fine. You don’t need to store a years worth of energy in one go if you can produce more than you use which helps during lower output times.

                Then if your employer is mandating return to office, charge the battery there. Make the fuckers pay for it.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Then if your employer is mandating return to office, charge the battery there. Make the fuckers pay for it.

                  based

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                  8 hours ago

                  “I’ll go absolutely barebones on electricity usage. Just a router and my gaming console!”

                  I don’t think it’s a good idea to opt out of something like a fridge or lighting.

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                    I lived without a fridge for several months before, it’s not that difficult. Half the things I keep in a fridge don’t really need it anyway, like chutney and jam would last a fairly long time without it. Eggs in the UK don’t need the fridge either. IIRC the US wash off the protective layer on them so they do have to go in the fridge there.

                    LEDs use very little energy.