• silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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      1 day ago

      Sure, day 1 is ICE, but any meaningful success in attacking them will be followed by a military deployment

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 day ago

        But will they follow the order. This is of course why they are purging the generals right now. But it won’t take more than a few high ranking officers who refuse an order to fire on unarmed civilians (which you know trump will demand) and then the snowball is rolling. Trump will order other troops to fire on those troops, and they will refuse… Trump may think this is what he wants. But I have some faith in our military. It won’t take too many to start things rolling.

        • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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          1 day ago

          This is why I’ve considered an idea for all those cities occupied by our own troops right now…

          I’m thinkin’, everybody should get really buddy buddy with the troops. Take the kids to meet them. Give them water bottles on a hot day. Make smalltalk. Ask about their families. Get on a first name basis. No ulterior or subversive motives, like legit BEFRIEND these people.

          The way fascists justify turning the military on anyone is dehumanization.

          Maybe Corporal Huggins could be ultimately convinced to attack “Those rebellious protesters.” But is he going to be as willing to fix his rifle on “Armin, that guy who always asks how I’m doing” and “Barbara, who brought us donuts that one time”, or “George, whose little boy Eric thought I looked so cool and thanked me for keeping the city safe”?

          It’s stupid that they’re there. They mostly think so too, and if we bond over that, I think it could increase the chances of better outcomes when the orange Caligula escalates his insanity.

          Winning a population with “hearts and minds” can work both ways.

          The hellspawn in office are counting on us to cower and keep to ourselves, or violently lash out and justify death in return. Either way they would get what they want.

          Who knows, I’m just daydreaming here but maybe eventually we’d even get the military’s support in rocking the absolute shit out of ICE if they catch a van of LARPing terrorists coming to drag their friends away.

          We need to solidify our bonds as human Americans, before these filthy outsider monsters that captured some cushy chairs succeed in turning us violently on each other when we should be coming for them.

          • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
            2·
            14 hours ago

            While I agree, and have said similar. Someone pointed out to me that at least in oregon, the guard troops that showed up were from a pool of guard members that volunteered for this specific duty. So it could be they wanted the money, or it could be that they share the opinion of the administration. Oregon is considered a very blue state because of portland. But by area, it’s a very red state. I don’t think there is any real way to know the opinions of those guard troops. But I think it doesn’t hurt to try.