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    For 800 homeless people? I know he wants them to suffer and divert attention but it’d probably be cheaper and easier just to build each of them a house… he’d even actually create some genuine jobs for once. It could be a national movement of solidarity and job creation. He could call it “the Trump Fil…”. Oh no…

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      For 800 homeless people?

      The homeless are just his excuse to position the military in the capital for his coup.

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    Trump is very protective of his young boy servants. He does not want anyone to steal one.

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    I don’t think god exists. I keep telling you all. This is your very first and last life you’re ever going to have.

    For that reason, I’m in the couch trying to not toast alive in my house.

    I bet people in other lesser countries like Mexico people are suffering incredible hardship that is unimaginably worse than ours. If only there was a body of people organized for the purpose of helping us all!

    Anyway, if anyone needs me I’ll be found in my living room within the sweaty damp area.

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    Yes, his is fascism and should not happen.

    However…I do think that the left lives in a bubble sometimes, and fail to get tracking amongst the working class. Working class people really do want proper police protection, and deserve it.

    Sure crime statistics are down, but everything has become very uncomfortable. Some homeless guy gets on the bus, drunk, with his stained clothing inside out, and maybe on drugs and now you have to worry if they are going to stab you.
    Yes, police should not harass homeless people, but now you have 20 average people on the bus worried that they’ll be stabbed. This mild level of anxiety is constant.

    The left has asked the working class to take on a disproportionate amount of burden, yes it’s better to have out treatment for addiction, and not arrest the unhoused, but the working and lower middle class do feel the pinch of this policy affecting them.

    The working class, blue collar residents, see Trump make these proclamations and desperately hope something breaks in their favor. It won’t Trump is not a capable manager.

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      The left isn’t asking the working class to take on any burdens, or ignore problems. Perhaps you’re thinking of liberals? The left is constantly pointing at the root causes of these problems, and begging people to turn their anger towards the people responsible, rather than those most victimized by the system.

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      “everything has become very uncomfortable”

      This is the problem, crime is literally at super lows for almost everyone alive in the country. You were far more likely to get mugged/stabbed/raped in the 90s than you are today, so why are you feeling more uncomfortable now?

      The simple answer is because we hear about it more now. Two things are driving this, A) The population is higher, so there are more total incidents (even if the rate is lower) and B) For-Profit “News” knows that these kinds of stories get more views/clicks (and therefore make them more money) so you hear about each and every single one of them.

      Feeling more uncomfortable now is irrational.

      The “left” is trying to educate the populace about this, but people as a whole (working class or otherwise) are stupid as fuck, don’t understand how statistics work, and are literally being taken advantage of by these for-profit groups and politicians because of it. There’s not a lot that can be done to change that except to improve education for children, but the Right has been doing everything they can to harm education for decades now.

      Tl;dr; Feels before reals

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        Feeling uncomfortable is not irrational. Being anxious to take public transit, out of fear of encountering a mentally ill person that might act out violently, is actually a common fear. There is a stigma about talking about this. Careful about finding yourself in an echo chamber.

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          Feeling uncomfortable when your risk of something bad happening is extremely low is quite literally how you define Irrational.

          https://transweb.sjsu.edu/sites/default/files/Security Perspective 2022 (08.15)_0.pdf

          Here’s a study with a TON of data in it, and in the entire dataset where they looked at attacks on public transit(not just buses) from 2004 to 2021, they found 139 attacks, and 22 fatalities in the US.

          Quite literally more people die in bus crashes each year, than are even injured from random attacks over this entire study period.

          Being afraid of one of those attacks is Irrational unless you are also more uncomfortable getting on the bus just because of the likelihood of a crash.

          Commonality has nothing to do with it, being afraid of spiders in North America is also extremely common, and completely Irrational. That’s why it’s called Arachnophobia (a phobia is a fear that is persistent and IRRATIONAL)

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            Literally from the first page of the report you cite

            “While we noted the surge in random violence against passengers in all countries, including but not limited to the United States, the structure of MTI’s database simply did not lend itself to proper analysis of the phenomenon And the sources of data were inadequate and unreliable. Fearing that partial reporting would result in incomplete and potentially misleading conclusions, in 2021 we decided to cease counting these events in our database while we explored new data sources and database configurations that would allow us to better capture, analyze, and portray the events. What this means is that the shift from terrorist to anit-social violence throughout the world, but particularly in the United States and perhaps some of the other economically advanced countries, is far greater than what we include in this report. which is why we call for a more robust accounting, and better strategies, for dealing with this problem.”

            It states the opposite of what you think it states!!!

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              No it doesn’t state the opposite. You are throwing out the entirety of the data just because the researchers admit that it may not be fully complete. They report exists because… their data is still mostly valid and gives important information.

              Even if the real numbers were 50x the values they listed, which is absolutely absurd and obviously it’s not that bad, each year it would add up to less than 5000 attacks per year and only 68 deaths, across a country of 320 million people. Or about 1.5 people per 100,000 get attacked, and about 0.02 people per 100k die. That’s WITH me counting it at 50 times the value!

              More people die to lawnmowers than that… (about 75 per year) About 5000 Americans choke to death on food every year. 45,000 die in Vehicle accidents.

              There are far more common things that will injure or kill you than getting on a bus and getting attacked, and unless you are worried about all of those first and change your behavior to reduce the risk, then worrying about this one to the point of changing your behavior is irrational.

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                If every time you went home, and had to step over a half naked homeless guy holding a half broken glass bottle, sleeping on your porch, your mental health would go into the toilet. That’s how people feel riding the subway everyday.

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                  That simply isn’t the reality for almost anyone.

                  And we were talking about busses, not subways.

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      The left has asked the working class to take on a disproportionate amount of burden

      As has the right, this is because our options are theocratic or secular plutocracy, both are pro-corporate/billionaire

      Democrats abandoned labor long ago, and Republicans never have been pro labor in my lifetime.

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      If it’s only one guy, and not a bus full, then that’s demonstrative of progress. Go look at the MTA back in the 80s, when whole gangs roved the system. It hasn’t “become uncomfortable”, it’s become more comfortable and safer.

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      Refuse. Unlawful. Orders.

      If sanity ever returns to your country, you don’t want to be on the wrong side.

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        If a masked person enters my property and refuses to show identification, I will absolutely be practicing self-defense.

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          O please. Get a grip. You’ll get yourself shot. Or you’ll shot a cop, and give an excuse for even more violence and state repression. Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.

          Get a camera, set it to record to a remote location, preferable a data center in another country. What we really need are tech volunteers to start setting up these types of digital cameras in ethnic neighborhoods to document what is happening.

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            Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.

            The same army we would be fighting got their asses handed to them by insurgents in Vietnam and Afghanistan

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            Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.

            Where did you hear this? You are flat-out wrong, thousands of examples prove this statement to be totally untrue.

            Also, there’s usually much more to it than simply fighting, it’s rarely “peaceful protest” or “fighting” alone.

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            1. Happy to lend tech expertise where needed, let me know

            2. If an unidentified masked person is harassing me on my property I’m not just going to let it happen but make sure it is recorded.

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            Individuals can’t fight their way out of repressive regimes.

            But they can film their way out of one?

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              They were triangular for ease of manufacture, they were also stronger that way. They didn’t need to be particularly slicey, they were pretty much just for pointy stabbies. So a triangular blade would do.

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                3 things. First it’s a myth that triangular bayonets are banned under the geneva conventions. Only serrated bayonets are illegal. Secondly it wouldn’t make sense to ban something in war because it’s “more lethal”. That’s like the whole point of war. Serrated blades are banned because they cause undue suffering. Third, the geneva conventions only apply to humanitarian treatment at war. Governments are free to do what they want to their citizens according to international law. It’s why tear gas is banned for warfare via the geneva conventions yet police can gas the shit out of protestors.

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                  Nitpick: the Geneva conventions apply for all kinds of conflicts, including domestic ones. However, tear gas is allowed for riot control in policing.

                  The reason it’s banned in war is because if the other side sees you using chemical weapons, they might respond with their own, but the bad ones, like nerve gas. In riot control, that isn’t going to happen.

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                  Yes, it was the “undue suffering” component that I was thinking of. Thanks for the clarification. What was the reason to do away with them then? They went to flat blades, didn’t they? Not sure if bayonets are even current issue for armies any longer. Are they?

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                The US aren’t concerned with conventions, are they? I mean they use cluster ammunition, depleted uranium ammunition etc…

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      National Guard is a branch of the army isn’t it? I’m not sure you can just quit. AWOL? Maybe. If you’re close to your end date you can choose not to continue. But quit? Don’t think army works like that

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        This isn’t russia, AWOL means forefitting benefits and possibly sitting in jail for a bit. Juggling between the consequences of AWOL or carrying out nazi orders, I know what my choice would be.

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          I’m gonna go out on a limb and bet your not the type to join the Armed Forces in the first place. -No offense (I’m not either) I say this because I think the type of person that’s anti-war enough to opt for jail over carrying out nazi orders is the same type of person that knows better than to ever find themselves in a position to make this decision. If I’m wrong, I welcome your corrections.

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          I’m not saying you shouldn’t go AWOL. I’m saying you can’t just quit

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          neat.

          remember anyone who joined did so willingly as we are 100% volunteers in the US.

          If you find yourself waking up to the facts of the regime you volunteered for, good! if you are unwilling to lose benefits or do some time, then you’re not yet awake enough to really care.

          remember: you may have joined due to propaganda and agitation, and you may not be able to awol because of capitalism.

          the very same “ism” that profits from the military action.

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        You can’t just leave your badge on the desk and walk out like in movies, either.

        But being punished for abandoning your post might be the only other alternative to being a brute in the service of a dictator.

        The Army and law enforcement of DC will decide in whatever direction their personal characters leans them towards.

        “I can change THE system from THE inside!!1”

        No, you can’t. Run. The tribunals that you will face after Trump is arrested or killed will not be kind to you.

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          So funny story, I had a coworker basically up and walk out like in the movies. So I mean, you kind of can.

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            Meaning not without legal repercussions. You have to be formally discharged in both services.

            But hey, law and common sense appear to be clean out the window in America now so, go nuts!

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              Never heard about any legal percussions. Supposedly he can’t come back though