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Teachers, firefighters and military personnel among those who lost jobs after posting their opinion on social media
Reactions on social media to the murder of far-right activist Charlie Kirk have cost multiple people their jobs as authorities in numerous states clamp down on critical commentary.
Among those to have been fired, suspended or censured in recent days for their opinions include teachers, firefighters, journalists, politicians, a secret service employee and a worker for a prominent NFL team.
The dismissals come as the administration of Donald Trump promises to take action against foreign nationals it deems to be “praising, rationalizing or making light of” Kirk’s killing, himself a fervent free speech advocate.
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Isn’t America all about free speech?
It’s nice that you think that, but no, it’s only allowed and celebrated if you’re speaking fascist rhetoric.
They’re still big about not being able to say the n-word in public. I don’t spend much time with the racist in-laws, but when I do I am always impressed with the new ways they’ve picked up to be racist without being openly racist.
Laura Loomer, a Trump loyalist, posted to X: “Prepare to have your whole future professional aspirations ruined if you are sick enough to celebrate his death. I’m going to make you wish you never opened your mouth.”
jokes on her, i don’t have any professional aspirations, future aspirations, or future. may past performance indicate future results.
What’s even crazier about the crazy shit this crazy bitch spouts, is the vitriolic hatred she’s spewed directly at Kirk even within the weeks just before he was shot. All scrubbed from her media account now, of course. There’s a lot of indication that it was her stochastic terrorism that drove the shooter (who subscribed to her X feed) to pull the trigger, because of her comments that Kirk wasn’t pure enough for the magats.
Also, where are the Epstein files?
What happened with the land of the free?
GOP voters were too stupid to know they voted to sell it to the
highestmost-connected bidderthe people you don’t want to make suicidal turned suicidal?
NPR just posted an article about this, and it’s no longer “several” but rapidly escalating. I’ll repost what I wrote in that article on !politics@lemmy.world
This is not merely the escalation of political violence against the right’s out groups, it is the proliferation of a culture of right wing terrorism. They said it was civil war, and while that rhetoric has tempered due to the unsurprising discovery that the assassin was yet another right wing radical, they fully intend to escalate their civil war goals by robbing opponents of their means to survive in our capitalist hellscape of a country.
This is my advice, if you find someone who has had their livelihoods stolen from them for expressing relief at a slightly kinder world, share their employer. Share the website, the Yelp, flood them with emails and 1-star reviews letting them know that terrorism will not be tolerated.
The republicans said we are war. It may not be a war of bullets and bombs, at least not yet, but do not doubt them.
What is the legality of the terminations?
In the US, most states have no worker protections whatsoever and you can be fired for anything or nothing. The worst part is, employers can and do lie about their reasons for harming their workers in order to prevent them from collecting even the pittance that is unemployment, and the workers have very little recourse. Worse, potential employers asking applicants why they left their past jobs or if they have ever been fired has become standard practice in the US, despite such questions being very inappropriate.
THE MAN SAID CHILDREN GETTING MURDERED EVERY OTHER WEEK WHERE THEY GO TO LEARN WAS WORTH IT SO HE COULD PLAY WITH GUNS. CHILDREN. CHIL. DREN.
Wasn’t Charlie supposed to be some kind of advocate for free speech? Because this sure doesn’t seem very free speechy.
They didn’t want Free speech they wanted hate speech
No he was an advocate for right wing speech
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Free speech - offer not valid for some political persuasions, mouthy women, POC, foreigners, those not sufficiently
Marklar, excuse me, “maga”, non-xtians…etc.
Fuck your feelings, snowflakes - am I doing it right?
Not enough slurs if you’re going for authenticity.
The trouble is that – at least for now – the worst things we can call them aren’t considered slurs.
Idk, cousinfucker is a pretty good one
We’re at the Thought Police stage it appears.
Also, Charlie Kirk was a rage-spewing hate-muppet who was killed by an even worse wannabe nazi piece of societal deadweight. He got what he deserved. Come at me, THINKPOL.
We’re at the Thought Police stage it appears.
Corporate America has always fired people for expressing political opinions. Ya’ll either haven’t worked in a real job or are very young, this isn’t anything new. Whether or not this decades-old unspoken policy is correct or not is an entirely different conversation, but let’s not pretend that corporate America has ever stood up for freedom of speech or let people express their hot takes at work, that’s fucking absurd.
You could have expressed your opinion without including the insulting (and completely wrong) assumptions about me. But you chose not to. Cheers!
I made zero assumptions about you, my comment was objectively very generalized, but if you took it personally, that’s on you and how you choose to take even mildly, distantly opposing views and maybe you should work on that.
Ya’ll either haven’t worked in a real job or are very young
Implying people who haven’t worked in corporate america haven’t worked a “real job”
Since when are military, teachers, and firefighters part of corporate America? And coming from the absolutist free speech party? These are government positions being terminated for expressing an opinion. You know, protected speech.
Also, have any been fired for publicly supporting Kirk? Why isn’t that a thing?
Yeah, but now you have people intentionally weaponizing that - even for speech well outside of work, and only because they want to punish those not like them and who don’t embrace a Nazi - which our government is fucking honoring right now, by the way.
Where is the punishment for those that express support for Kirk? That’s not political? Why aren’t those motherfuckers being singled out, doxxed and FIRED? They are supporting a Nazi. I would think that is much more grounds for firing…
So, it’s okay to lionize the guy - and that’s not political speech that a company or org needs to worry about?
Right?
The problem is if you don’t show sufficient sadness about the killing of a Nazi?
Shouldn’t liberals maybe be keeping lists and doxxing the people that show outsized support for this Nazi, and demanding that THEY be cancelled?
I thought conservatives don’t like cancel culture
I mean I for one plan to visit the man’s grave before I die to pay my respects
And I don’t plan on pissing the entire drive there
you should eat lots of spicy chili on the way!
and taco bell
gifs you can experience
Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, meanwhile, has ordered staff “to find and identify military members, and any individual associated with the Pentagon, who have mocked or appeared to condone Charlie Kirk’s murder”, NBC News reportedFriday.
Wessel’s funeral was given wide attention in Berlin, with many of the Nazi elite in attendance. After his death, he became a propaganda symbol in Nazi Germany. A march for which he had written the lyrics was renamed the “Horst-Wessel-Lied”(“Horst Wessel Song”), and became the official anthem of the Nazi Party. After Adolf Hitler came to national power in 1933, the song became the co-national anthem of Germany, along with the first verse of the previous “Deutschlandlied”, also known as “Deutschland über alles”.
It’s word-for-word (better in the original German) the same playbook. This ToiletPaperUSA guy is, I guess you could say, a kind of . . . nuclear Wessel.
Heh.
Yeah, yeah, I’m going
Criminalizing your political opponents is very much on brand
It really is to the point now where public employees don’t get to have a personal life.
Many years ago I got in trouble at work for posting a meme making fun of the bible. A client of ours didn’t like it and complained to my boss. This was on my personal facebook page at the time.
I learned from that lesson
I dare anyone to figure out who my current employer is, unless your a cop and know my real name and have the ability to pull my records from the IRS you aren’t going find out.
People, please. Let me be your voice, I work for myself, and in a way where my good will means fuck all. I can’t be touched and I’m a massive fucking asshole
I like the way Snrub thinks!
This is exactly the time to spread Charlie Kirk’s videos and messages far and wide. There is no better way to celebrate the man than to let the world hear his message. It is his legacy. It was his life’s work.
And the Democrats in Congress should write up the “Charlie Kirk Sensible Gun Reform Bill” with background checks and red flag laws. That’s it. Surely this is the time, in the face of senseless death, to honour Charlie by bringing this bill forward.
Do you think a background check and red flag law would have changed the outcome in this case? What evidence is there that it would?
It is almost tedious to have to say this every single time a political discussion comes up: Don’t make a perfect plan the enemy of a good plan. Inevitably the first response to an otherwise reasonable suggestion that statistically would address the significant drivers of a general problem (even if perhaps not this exact problem in this specific context) is to assert that it won’t work all the time or perfectly fix the problem in one shot and so it is not worth considering. Whether intentional or not, it is intellectually dishonest.
And yes I think there could very well be flags that could have delayed access to firearms in this case. But the point isn’t to solve the whole problem in every circumstance, the point is to change the gun culture in the US. Americans may think this kid was raised in a normal household in a normal culture, but this is not true. There are deep cultural problems. And starting with the most milquetoast responsible gun control that aims to reduce the number of Americans that use ownership to drive their identity is a reasonable place to start.
But if I’m being frank, I don’t really care about either Charlie Kirk or the kid who ostensibly shot him. I’m not American and thank fuck for that.
Plenty of neo-Nazi shitbags holding candles in the photo. The companies, politicians, school leadership, etc…are revealing themselves too.
