Oh no the polarization is increasing on both sides… this ain’t good
From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Just some 30 year kids. They will say edgy things. I mean, come on guys. … no really, let’s go to ikea and fuck a sofa.
You may have a career in politics ahead of you, my friend. Maybe even Vice President.
What are watermelon people supposed to be?
Racist term for black Americans
Huh. Thanks. I have no clue how that even makes abstract sense. (bit I don’t think I really care)
Iirc (don’t quote me on this) during reconstruction after the Civil War many black Americans had little land (if any) and watermelon was an easy crop for limited land. Racist white people then associated the fruit with those they hate.
You got it, but you left out some details. The watermelon was actually a symbol of hope and prosperity for the recently freed slaves. The former slave owners, didnt like it. So, owning the media of the time, they started running ads showing caricatures of black people eating watermelon like animals. It took less then 10 years for the belief to become common that it was always a racist trope.
See also, fried chicken. That one came from Birth of a Nation. Both of these racist stereotypes persist today. I know the black community in America wanted to reclaim the N word, but IMO, they should have reclaimed the Watermelon as the symbol of freedom and perseverance that it once was for that first generation of freed slaves who over came massive hurdles to make a life for themselves.
To give you an idea of just how bad it was, there was a story about a woman who was a nanny for a young boy. When she was freed, and had to leave the boy cried and was utterly distraught that she was leaving. A few years later that young boy met his nanny again. The woman was overjoyed to see him and asked if he’d like to share some watermelon with him. His reply? “I dont eat n***** food.”. Thats the power of the media, and then it was only a few newspapers. Just imagine what its doing to us all today.
Black people like watermelon. It’s a stereotype
Don’t most people like watermelon?
The fried chicken and watermelon thing is the stupidest thing in the world. Everyone loves these things. Every single culture in the entire world has its own fried chicken dish.
So the party that likes the slavers, the crossed flag, that hates poor’s, … is a Nazi nest…
What are the news again?
As usual, within days of an event, pizzacale’s low-hanging fruit shows up.
As long as on person is stupid enough to buy their bs they will continue doing it … :/
We all knew.
I dont know. On one hand we have cunts wearing red hats and chatting shit about “men in dresses”. And on the other we have blue haired land whales chatting shit about how being “male and pale is stale”. I think everyone is just a cunt at this point. And while we dont have an easily recognisable name for it like “nazi”, the other side of the CULTure wars would be every bit the horror show the red hat wearing pricks would be if left unchecked in power.
Yeah, thats right. Im both sidesing this mother fucker. I dont care what tragic cult script youve got lined up, ready to go. The fact is, anyone who takes part in the culture wars is a cunt. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Red hats and pick up trucks, or blue hair and septum rings. Youre all toxic and cringe.
Bernie Sanders: Total Blue Haired Land Whale. Can hardly hear him talk over the clank of all his facial piercings. Trynna give everyone healthcare and stop the tidal wave of money rushing out of the pockets of working people into the ever expanding hoards of billionaires. So problematic.
Ah, so its the best of us vs the worst of them argument? Never heard that one before…
Do you think the MAGAs consider Trump, Hegseth, or these chucklefuck MAGAlings as the worst of them or the best of them? Pit the right’s “Best” against the left’s “Best” and you make sir/madam Sparkly Fart’s point.
A lot of them probably do, yes. Doesnt make them correct. And we arent talking about MAGA, we are talking about Republicans. I know thats REAL fucking hard for your cult warped brain to see the distinction, but its there.
The obvious example is John McCain. When his supporters were chatting shit about Obama, he shut that shit down. Told it like it was, that he was a good man that he just happened to disagree with on some issues. Those kinds of republicans are still around. But you dont care about that, because youre the same time of inbred fuck up that he had to shut down when they were chatting shit about Obama. You just dont see it, because youre head is filled with cult nonsense. Just like the MAGA brain rot is filled with their cult nonsense.
Newsflash for you, chief. You are the thing you hate.
John “I hate the g**ks and I always will” McCain is your champion?
lol
Newsflash for you, MAGA is the republican party.
I’ll grant you that McCain was probably the highwater mark for the GOP in recent history, but I think its pretty clear how MAGA views him today (I think “loser” and “RINO” were bandied about pretty often)
Take a look out your window at who is running this shitshow, and believe them when they tell you who they are, or keep pretending it’s everyone else who is brainwashed. Your call, “chief”.
It’s pretty telling that your example of a prominent non-MAGA type republican died 7 years ago. What Republicans support is MAGA. Otherwise they could hold MAGA people responsible for their clear crimes and moral failings.
That was my obvious example. So I wouldnt be called a liar, because him doing that is widely known about. Whats telling is that you just did the every thing Im accusing you of, and you think its fucking fine.
Can you name any Republicans with power that don’t go along with MAGA?
Who would you say is the best of them? Trump?
I wouldnt know who the worst or best is, I just know that being republican doesnt make you a nazi anymore than being a democrat does. And thats really my point. All too often we see the worst example of something, anything, and one side of the dumb as fuck culture war grabs on to it for dear life like its an example of the whole group.
I mean, people do make the connection just being white makes you a nazi. Do you agree with that? Does being American make you fat and thick? Does being British mean you dont know what toothpaste tastes like? Does being German mean you make gay scat porn? Does being a woman mean you want kids? Does being a man mean you like power drills? Does being gay mean you dont like sports? Doest being straight mean you do like sports?
I want people held to account for their own actions. Thats it. Thats the world I want to live in. Not this bastion of virtue, where everyone is just a cunt based on whatever other cunt they share something with.
And Id also argue that Bernie was a poor example. As that man is not part of the culture wars. Hes left wing in a country that has two right parties. He didnt celebrate the murder of Charlie Kirk, and instead spoke out against it. The culture warriors are nothing like Bernie. They are cult followers, looking to gain up arrows across various platforms to gain the illusion of self worth. Right, left, doesnt matter. Everything one side says about the other, can be said about both. Cancel culture, both sides do that. Rape and death threats on twitter? Both sides do that. It really doesnt matter what side you are on, if you are in the culture wars, youre already part of the problem.
I really don’t see it this way. Sorry. The right wants culture wars to be done by government, the left wants culture to move towards a more fair and free society where people aren’t held back from opportunities because of biases around their identity. These are very different. And, no one in power on the left talks like those who in power on the right. The President has called half the country terrorists. Its insane and so much more one sided than you are saying.
I know you dont. Thats the problem. “The right” wants straight white males in all their tv shows, and “the left” wants straight white males to never be in any tv show again. Anyone who isnt part of the culture wars, just wants a good tv show/movie to watch.
The issue with American politics is that you think you have a left wing party fighting for you. You dont. You never did. What you have is one party running rings around everyone else because they are going hard into the social media aspect of things. The dems arent. They are still holding the pocket of hollywood, or at least being seen to. This is the same hollywood that keeps on trying to lecture us on being good people, while ignoring sexual assaults because it helps their career. People, arent buying that shit any more.
Then on top of that, you have cunts like Nancy Pelosi who are holding back people like Bernie and AOC who actually are the future and change that Americans have been screaming out for, for over a decade. Just last year that woman fucked AOC out of a committee seat that would have put her in great place to push for a presidential run. Maybe even as soon as 2028 but 100% for 2032. But because AOC wont play the game for the party leaders or their rich donors, she got robbed of a seat that was vacated for her. The plan was that the 60 year old guy would step down so that the seat could be filled by a someone young with new fresh ideas. But once Nancy found out, she made sure that the seat went to a 75 year old dude with fucking cancer. And he fucking died 4 months later! So instead of a 35 year old women in her prime that is, whether they like it or not, the future of the party. They inserted a dying fucking man. And you know what? They STILL wont let her have the fucking seat.
Now go back to 2016. America is screaming out for change. On one side you have Trump, chatting shit about draining the swamp. On the other side you have Hilary… Who is part of the fucking swamp that everyone wants rid of. Bernie, who got fucked over by the DNC, would have beat Trump with ease. Even fucking Republicans were saying they would vote for Bernie. But no, because he wasnt going to bend the knee. If it wasnt for the Dems rigging that shit, the world would NEVER have known what a Trump presidency looks like.
Now fast forward to 2020. Theres something like, 17 fucking dems up for the nom. It was a crazy number. But every single one of them, had a free healthcare plan for Americans. Including Harris, which is something to remember. Pelosi, told them all to take a big step back so that Biden got the nom. The bullshit they spun was that he was the only one who could be Trump. The actual issue? He was the only one that didnt have a free healthcare plan. He was happy to leave things fucked.
Now its 2024, Biden is fucked in the head because hes old as shit. And Harris is just given the nom. But did you notice? No free healthcare plan anymore. It was replaced with some watered down shit about lowering insulin costs. And was she talking change? Nope. She was getting the hollywood fuck wits to rap about all the shit people cant stand about modern hollywood, while she went around business people making herself look like the perfect republican.
If you wanna tell me that MAGA is full cunts, Ill agree with you. If you are trying to tell me that Dems are the heroes of this tale, well, sorry. But that just doesnt pass the sniff test.
And this whole dog shit about a fair society is just that, its dog shit. Its about virtue signalling and hate and for some weird fucking reasons, asking 12/13 year old boys if they are gay or not…
This is not fucking normal. This is fucking weird. And if this shit is the “progress” you are pushing, then Ill stand against until I die of a stroke or something.
If you dont know shit stfu Moron
Oft. Thats your effort is it? Id be embarrassed by that keyboard warrior retort, mate. I really would.
Nah, your a moron that’ll never learn. You hate information and truth and deserve 0 percent of my effort. Just Google your ideas and learn.
Dude… Are you okay?
No, Im surrounded by morons who think the worst version of a group is reprehensive of that whole group. You do it, they do it, everyone is doing it. Seeing this nest of nazi fuckwits is bad enough. But youre all treating it like its exposing the whole of the other side. Its the same energy that sees people say “the jews control all the money”. What, all of them? Every single Jew? Well, that must be some size of table they all sit round when talking about what to do with it.
Next you’ll be telling me all black guys are paedos because Diddy is…
You know you’re smarter than everyone else, but you don’t seem to be able to find intelligent friends. Why waste your time here?
I am not smarty than everyone else. Only a prick would make such a claim. Theres plenty of intelligent people around lemmy, just because you dont count yourself among them… is a you problem.
You need to surround yourself with people who aren’t morons.
Im not surrounding myself with you. You are surrounding me. Maybe, youre the problem?
You need to go find a friend that sees you. Shake it off.
oh look, it’s someone’s unearthed post from 2016
Of all the things you could have said to grab some free worthless internet points, that might just be the weakest. You can do better. I believe in you. Come on, dude. You got this.
You sound like an AI
I dont “sound” like anything to you, you dope.
Fully agree with you
Most ultra leftists are horrible by themselves and would do the exact same thing, and a lot of the politically correctness bullshit from years ago caused many people to vote trump back then.
whats your most radical left position? do you even have any left wing positions?
When Dani Lalonders said that she didnt hire white people because they “created unsafe working environments”, you all said that was fine. It was like a white woman saying she crosses the street when she see a black guy because she doesnt feel safe. Its racism then, but not when it was Dani. I wonder why that is? Why is it ok for some people to be racist, but not others? Could it be, because you are all in fucking cult? And the only real difference between you is the colour of whatever is on your head?
Lemme guess, youre a white european who hates illegal immigrants?
I dont know how you got that from what I said, but youre half right. Im Scottish. Im as left wing as you can get without sporting a shitty moustache. And thats actual left wing, not that right wing ghoulish shit you Americans pretend is left wing.
I have zero issues with anyone coming here. The more the merrier. So, now what you got? What keen insights of the American fuck wit can I expect next?
bro I just realized you arent even the person i was originally talkkng to, who the fuck are you? I literally don’t care about your opinion but the guy I originally commented on. The guy I was talking to I am betting is a liberal right winger. Dont care about your stances
shit the fuck up please
It’s best to just block Benny, he’s not just a white European who hates immigrants, he’s a white European who hates immigrants, women, and anyone of a different shade than he is. He’s a proper cunt.
Im your father. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
It’s a frustrating echo chamber here. I’m trans and there is tons of extremism from specifically other people in my community. I’m left leaning ( left leaning centrist? ) and people are too tribal when it comes to partisan politics to see the extremity on their ‘side’.
The modern political landscape sees people othering their ‘enemy’. Understanding them as ‘dumb’ or ‘terrible people’, with a complete lack of empathy for their humanity.
Republicans are people too, frequently misguided, and that’s a sad thing. I feel sad for them, they deserve my pity, they are lost.
They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes
For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.
Are those actual leaked quotes on the right?? Good lord!!
In case you haven’t seen the report,
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
I thought the comics was clumsy satire. Turns out it’s basically straight infographics at this point.
Great.
Thank you.
I’m stunned.
The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.
Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.
And not even ‘technically 19 years olds are adults’ type adults, these are men aged 25-34 who posted that shit.
No Kings this Saturday! Show up!
I’m stunned.
I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity
My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.
Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.
So what is his go-to response?
Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.
If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.
None of them were kids, which is sad, but I get your point. If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/republican-hitler-group-chat-nazi-politico/
None of them were kids
They all were at some point.
If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.
For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.
Glad I was homeschooled then
YMMV. It’s more you should be grateful you didn’t have racist parents.
I recognize a couple of them from an article, so I think they are.
Verified in New York Times. The graphic of the bubbles comes from politico.
I think the worst part of all of this, for me, is how unfunny it all is. Like goddamn, they are so bad at humor.
“The right can’t meme”
I think the worst part is that the Vice President openly defended them.
I think the worst part is how many worst parts there are.
It is funny if you’re a pychopath
I think the worst part for me is that these people have power, actual real world power. But being unfunny is definitely pathetic.
One of these ubermensch
I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn’t pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They’re NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.
These are just 4chan trolls who
maturedgot older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don’t believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects
That’s what these pictures are though, they’re just in suits. I find the fact that they’re all in suits hilarious. Dude is what, 23 and has the same build that 79 year old Trump has.
You’re not thinking like a rightoid and that’s probably a good thing.
Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.
It’s ironic that the greatest achievements of the white “race” (race in quotes since it’s not a real thing) have been in the realm of technology, yet the most advanced thing these inbred fucks have ever achieved is mounting big flags in the backs of their trucks.
Know what you’re getting at and you seem to address this but I wouldn’t attribute any achievement to the white race. That feeds into the Nazi narrative. Every achievement is an adaptation of or a step forward from ancient human wisdom. The concept of zero, which is foundational to all modern mathematics and technology, was derived from the spiritual and philosophical practices of people in South Asia. The precursors of the printing press were developed by people in China partly due to the rapid expansion of Buddhism creating a high demand for sutras.
Many of the mathematic “developments” of Fibonacci, for example, were already known in the Arabian peninsula, after having been transferred from South Asia and further developed. He learned Arabic in order to being them to the West. The infinite series for trigonometric functions (precursors to calculus) were also known in South Asia and the Arab peninsula before being ?discovered independently in Europe (its unknown if this knowledge transferred).
Finally I’ll end with the fact that both the industrial revolution and enlightenment occurred on the back of colonial exploitation. It was the relative luxury and advatantage of having people working the fields in a distant nation that allowed for the technological development that led to the industrial revolution in the west. It was the relative luxury, at the cost of back breaking labor in the colonies, that allowed for people to meet in salons and cafes and discuss/propogate enlightenment values. There’s some debate that enlightenment values may have developed in part due to contact with Indigineous people in the Americas since precivilization cultures are inherently more egalitarian and democratic (as communal interdependence is absolutely crucial to survival).
My larger point is that these are human / global achivements. The idea that no attribution can be given to those who paid for them in their blood is an imperialist one. And the last thing we want to do is empower fascists / imperialists.
You’ve already acknowledged so just expanding on your point!
Yeah, I agree with everything you’ve said. I mainly just wanted to make fun of that flag-in-truck bullshit.
The very notion that someone would take some kind of credit for technological advancement because they share a similar skin color with a random visionary makes me want to communicate non-verbally with these douche bags in a very forceful way.
If you catch my drift.
a random visionary
And most of them were Scots who aren’t even really human!
14 or 40.
yes
Real ‘Jared of Subway’ vibes there buddy.
someone needs to teach him how to button a blazer ffs
Not shown, but I would bet my 401k that his pants are way too long.
yes that’s his main problem. his blazer has two buttons and he’s done them both up
He said “Missouri don’t like f**s.”
When I was growing up and people were referred to as “f***y” for how they looked, he would have been called that.
Are we sure that’s not a robot controlled by Pinky and the Brain?
the fine aryan physique and race
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I’m getting so fucking tired of libs’ satisfaction with hypocrisy. We already knew these people were Nazis, they’ve always fucking been Nazis. They say they aren’t because gaslighting is a fascist tactic and open support of Nazism doesn’t ring with racist middle class people who only have their internalized values to run on. Whenever chuds are caught lying there’s thousands of lib gotcha posts like it’s a victory.
Why do people on Lemmy always find a way to make everything about liberals? That’s what I’m getting tired of. Whenever something happens, people come up saying “well yeah, liberals suck”. How is that better than the thing you’re arguing against? If you’re tired of “satisfaction with hypocrisy” of one group, what is your prefered group doing? Is there someone actually doing something about it? Because I only see people writing stuff on internet forums, regardless of their affiliation.
- Liberalism is hegemonic and its subscribers wield the greatest power over society.
- Something being bad is not dependent on something else being good.
- Everything that alleviates the harm of this system on me – voting rights, property and employment protection, food regulation, socialized Healthcare, socialized education – was all won with the blood of anarchists, socialists, and unionists.
My “preferred group” – whatever the fuck that means – is currently fighting liberals, as we’ve always done.
Now fuck off.
Ah so you’re fighting liberals by writing unhinged stuff on internet. Good job. Think about it the next time no one takes you seriously.
You’re going to drown dude.
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It’s not a “victory”, it’s refusing to let this shit slide unspoken
Cool, what about the past three decades? Libs have allowed fascists into power as they always do and I’ve lived through three decades of them only talking. Reveling in hypocrisy is too late and too satisfying to people who don’t feel genuinely threatened.
So yeah, i’m not american but i gotta tell you “the libs allow this! The libs allowed that!!” Is a total whingeing scapegoat attempt.
You literally vote in every single rep on multiple levels in the US. As in you, the people. You vote from councilmembers all the way up to congress members. And trying to blame a single political party for the people you literally vote into power is big ol’ pile of shite.
You have a vote. You have more than two parties. But you always blame just one set of politics when your shit goes sideways. What the hell is up with that.
Who the fuck are you talking to rn? I’m not in the US.
edit: On top of that, it’s hilarious to have yet another person fail to understand what liberalism is. Did I say, “Democratic Party of the USA”? Liberalism is not a specific group of politicians in one country, it is also not specific parties who call themselves liberals, it is a specific ideology organized around individualism and capital that emerged through settler colonialism. Shut the FUUUUUUCK up about shit you don’t know about like how self-righteous. Go proselytize on street corners if you’re so desperate.
Oh sweetie.
Liberalism and liberal parties are very very different things across the world. One example is the liberal party in Australia, who are infamously right wing. Liberalism meaning the left as opposed to the right is absolutely a US idea.
So if you don’t want people thinking you’re in the US, maybe don’t use their terminology and specific political constructs.
Pompous. THAT’S STILL LIBERALISM YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER.
AI levels of incoherence there but this site is small enough and your post history is varied enough that I believe this is truly just an igorant and satisfied person.
Have you considered once in your entire bubble-wrapped life that the language you have been given to understand politics purposefully made you unable to interpret – and therefore criticize – the policies and philosophies in the systems of power around you? These are all liberal parties. Liberalism is not when you say the rainbow capitalism or let the raciazlied people bomb kids too, though they certainly seek to appropriate ideas of social justice and civil progress. It is a durable and dominant ideology with individualism and capitalism as its primary organizing principles. Morality is written around the imperatives of infinite growth, wealth accumulation (extraction), and individual human bodies rather than human relationalities to each other and the land/spaces they exist in. “Right wing” or “left wing” is relevant only in the purposefully disarming rhetoric adopted in settler-colonial states to obfuscate that dominance. When people correctly identify that liberals, as in liberalism not as in the colloquial term for “not a Republican Party supporter,” do not challenge fascism, they are identifying that the material interests of liberals does not conflict with the overt racism and authoritarianism of fascists. Australia is a country dominated by liberalism in the same way the US, and Canada are all dominated by liberalism as these are all eurosettler countries that hold individualism and capitalism as the highest principle in their social and political systems.
Racism is fundamental to liberalism as capitalism depends on an exploitable class of people and race allows for a naturalized and immutable justification for exploitation of particular groups. Queerphobia is fundamental to liberalism as the hierarchy which is necessary to facilitate exploitation must control how people reproduce culturally as well as physically. Civil rights for racialized and queer people in these systems is articulated through the legal right to access capital both as a way to protect this imperative from violent challenges and redirect the threat these movements pose into the legal framework of the state to better control them.
“Sweetie,” you have to fucking think about what these people and systems actually do and why. **You do not know what you are fucking talking about. ** When I say liberals are fucking insufferable because they never know what they’re talking about and what the stakes are in the rise of fascism, I’m talking about you. I do not care what you think you subscribe to, because you’ve said as explicitly as possible that you do not care to know what you believe in.
I will not pay attention to your next comment, I won’t even read it. I post this only in the hopes that you aren’t some piece of shit who will never learn and in case there are other libs who may come across this comment thread and have their own internalized values challenged for once.
we haven’t had a liberal in power for 50 years. Every democrat in power for decades has been Conservative Lite.
Jesus fucking christ if I had a nickel for every lib that didn’t know what liberalism even is. Shut the fuck up about people online, you’re the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about.
Won’t respond again.
Ok?
Your most recent comment advocates for ableism. I couldn’t find a more perfect example of how brutal libs are.
The guys already a Nazi, disability did not make him a Nazi. Being a Nazi is more than enough to make fun of and it’s a choice too, so you can do that without also inadvertently devaluing of an entire group of people.
Fuck off.
Its so weird to me how they can be both Zionist bootlickers and nazis at once, it’s impressive
The Christian nationalists are deeply religious, so they see Israel as a good thing. End times or crusades or something.
The Nazis might hate Jewish people, but they hate brown people more.
The racists definitely hate brown people more.
They’re all in the maga alliance and are getting along for the moment just so they can be fascists.
It makes more sense when you realise that it’s about oppression, power, and creating scapegoats. Hitler’s closest allies were the not-exactly-Aryan Japanese.
And it’s not like they won’t all turn on each other eventually, anyway. So why not have some strange bedfellows along the way?
Supporting Zionism while being actively antisemitic is a handy way for Nazis to encourage jewish people to segregate themselves. Zionism presents a potentially attractive place to go, and then aggressive antisemitism gives them a reason to leave. The two are not so radically opposed.
The Nazis rhetoric drives more Jewish people to Zionism. Strange bedfellows indeed.
This is starting to fracture a bit with right wing traitor lunatics, but it’s for two main reasons. For some, it’s just about access to Middle East energy resources. That’s the main reason that US policy is to support Israel.
The other thing is for true believing traitor lunatics. They think that Israel needs to exist for the rapture to occur. I don’t remember the details but this is a big part of evangelical support.
Either way, absolute lunacy, but at least if we managed to wean off fossil fuels, support for Israel would evaporate.
Don’t forget, they’re anti establishment also.
It’s not that hard to understand the disconnect when you realize Israel are also nazis
